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The Dude 07-20-2014 02:37 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
That's asinine. 4 potential all pro plus a future hall of fame CB. Yea no talent there. I would say we almost have less talent on offense than defense.

Jack Vegas 07-20-2014 02:58 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
No "almost" about it. We definitely have more talent on defense than we do on offense.

Laughingly, they rank the Packers at #5, despite admitting the Packers defense is terrible and admitting that their overall roster is "JV" caliber (their words, not mine).

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Rugby Saint II 07-20-2014 03:34 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
Well then let's shut them up!
Bring on the season. :bng:

jjasso007 07-20-2014 03:54 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 600208)
First of all, the writer is Darin Gantt a former beat hack for the Carolina Panthers - so he basically eats out of Cam Newton's @$$...

Secondly, prefer all the ammunition and chips on the shoulder we can get, especially going into training camp...

Third, he argues the Saints struggle on the road - he fails to mention that the Saints and Pats own the best road record since 2009...

Finally, read his @$$hat criticism of the defense that the big acquisition was Byrd, had offseason surgery, and leaves adding only Champ Bailey...

How is it a step back in personnel when you rid yourself of the worst (2012) safety tandem in NFL history in Harper and Jenkins and now have potentially the best three safety rotation in the league in Vacarro, Byrd and Bush?!?

LOOK AT THE SOURCE...
Were Jenkins/Harper worse then Tebucky Jones/Jay Bellamy or Josh Bullocks/Dwight Smith?

The Dude 07-20-2014 04:20 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 600226)
So is he saying that if Byrd is 100% we will be much improved??
It merits asking...especially since Byrd's surgery was precautionary and he is 100%.
Actually that is one concern I agree with. We don't know if he is 100% or not. Even if he is 100% the fact that the surgery was so recent the injury could get reaggravated easily. On the other hand I have a hard time believing Loomis would have brought him in with a contract like that if he thought he was an injury risk.

homerj07 07-20-2014 07:52 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
I think 6 is fair. Maybe a little low. But we have a chance to be really really good

hagan714 07-20-2014 10:17 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
biggest concern is not the outside of the defense it is the middle. the saints did little to nothing at all to improve the depth on the dL or at MLB.

lets hope the question marks get answered during camp and some gems step up

jeanpierre 07-20-2014 10:26 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjasso007 (Post 600242)
Were Jenkins/Harper worse then Tebucky Jones/Jay Bellamy or Josh Bullocks/Dwight Smith?

Statistically, yes...

In 2012 they led the worse defense ever...

Jenkins/Harper were better than you or I but even that bell curve doesn't make them good...

We got better when Vaccaro took PT away from an "injured" Harper and when Bush replaced Jenkins; add Byrd, your comparing apples to turds...

darksoul35 07-20-2014 10:31 PM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
Don't we also get a pretty good linebacker back named Butler and a rookie corner to add depth. Dude is a straight hater. Barring injury we will win the superbowl and I cant wait to see the look on Rogers fake ass face.

AliJee 07-21-2014 05:09 AM
Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 600244)
Actually that is one concern I agree with. We don't know if he is 100% or not. Even if he is 100% the fact that the surgery was so recent the injury could get reaggravated easily. On the other hand I have a hard time believing Loomis would have brought him in with a contract like that if he thought he was an injury risk.
Ummmm I think after hitting gold with Brees Loomis takes way more risks on injured players.


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