PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense

Jack Vegas · 07-20-2014, 08:20 AM

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The only problem is, the Saints still might not have sufficient personnel on that side of the ball, so regression is a real possibility.

But other than bringing in last-legs cornerback Champ Bailey, there wasn’t the kind of influx of talent they might have needed.

They improved last year based largely on energy and emotion, and we’ll see how long that lasts in the face of a talent discrepancy.

It's laughable really. Gantt spouted this same thing all last year, it's like these people are completely unwilling to see the obvious.

Flood this fool with comments.

papz · 07-20-2014, 08:26 AM

B_Dub_Saint · 07-20-2014, 09:10 AM

Really imagine this. Really. Some one needs to b!tch slap this dude across the face and say, lay off the drugs son!!!!!!

WhoDat!656 · 07-20-2014, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Really imagine this. Really. Some one needs to b!tch slap this dude across the face and say, lay off the drugs son!!!!!!

I'm ready!

jeanpierre · 07-20-2014, 09:13 AM

First of all, the writer is Darin Gantt a former beat hack for the Carolina Panthers - so he basically eats out of Cam Newton's @$$...

Secondly, prefer all the ammunition and chips on the shoulder we can get, especially going into training camp...

Third, he argues the Saints struggle on the road - he fails to mention that the Saints and Pats own the best road record since 2009...

Finally, read his @$$hat criticism of the defense that the big acquisition was Byrd, had offseason surgery, and leaves adding only Champ Bailey...

How is it a step back in personnel when you rid yourself of the worst (2012) safety tandem in NFL history in Harper and Jenkins and now have potentially the best three safety rotation in the league in Vacarro, Byrd and Bush?!?

LOOK AT THE SOURCE...

jjasso007 · 07-20-2014, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

First of all, the writer is Darin Gantt a former beat hack for the Carolina Panthers - so he basically eats out of Cam Newton's @$$...

Secondly, prefer all the ammunition and chips on the shoulder we can get, especially going into training camp...

Third, he argues the Saints struggle on the road - he fails to mention that the Saints and Pats own the best road record since 2009...

Finally, read his @$$hat criticism of the defense that the big acquisition was Byrd, had offseason surgery, and leaves adding only Champ Bailey...

How is it a step back in personnel when you rid yourself of the worst (2012) safety tandem in NFL history in Harper and Jenkins and now have potentially the best three safety rotation in the league in Vacarro, Byrd and Bush?!?

LOOK AT THE SOURCE...

Were Jenkins/Harper worse then Tebucky Jones/Jay Bellamy or Josh Bullocks/Dwight Smith?

jeanpierre · 07-20-2014, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by jjasso007

Were Jenkins/Harper worse then Tebucky Jones/Jay Bellamy or Josh Bullocks/Dwight Smith?

Statistically, yes...

In 2012 they led the worse defense ever...

Jenkins/Harper were better than you or I but even that bell curve doesn't make them good...

We got better when Vaccaro took PT away from an "injured" Harper and when Bush replaced Jenkins; add Byrd, your comparing apples to turds...

SmashMouth · 07-20-2014, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Preseason Power Rankings No. 6: New Orleans Saints | ProFootballTalk

The only problem is, the Saints still might not have sufficient personnel on that side of the ball, so regression is a real possibility.

But other than bringing in last-legs cornerback Champ Bailey, there wasn’t the kind of influx of talent they might have needed.

They improved last year based largely on energy and emotion, and we’ll see how long that lasts in the face of a talent discrepancy.

It's laughable really. Gantt spouted this same thing all last year, it's like these people are completely unwilling to see the obvious.

Flood this fool with comments.

It's much more likely this writer's precious Panthers will severely regress in all phases.

jeanpierre · 07-20-2014, 11:42 AM

Source: ProFootballFocus

ScottF · 07-20-2014, 11:57 AM

So is he saying that if Byrd is 100% we will be much improved??
It merits asking...especially since Byrd's surgery was precautionary and he is 100%.

07-20-2014, 08:20 AM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Preseason Power Rankings No. 6: New Orleans Saints \| ProFootballTalk The only problem is, the Saints still might not have sufficient personnel on that side of the ball, so regression is a real possibility. But other than bringing in last-legs cornerback Champ Bailey, there wasn’t the kind of influx of talent they might have needed. They improved last year based largely on energy and emotion, and we’ll see how long that lasts in the face of a talent discrepancy. It's laughable really. Gantt spouted this same thing all last year, it's like these people are completely unwilling to see the obvious. Flood this fool with comments. ScottF, jeanpierre, savoyk and 1 others like this.
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07-20-2014, 08:26 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense foreverfan, SmashMouth, jeanpierre and 3 others like this.

07-20-2014, 09:10 AM	#3
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Really imagine this. Really. Some one needs to b!tch slap this dude across the face and say, lay off the drugs son!!!!!!

07-20-2014, 11:05 AM	#4
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Really imagine this. Really. Some one needs to b!tch slap this dude across the face and say, lay off the drugs son!!!!!! I'm ready! B_Dub_Saint and AliJee like this.

07-20-2014, 09:13 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense First of all, the writer is Darin Gantt a former beat hack for the Carolina Panthers - so he basically eats out of Cam Newton's @$$... Secondly, prefer all the ammunition and chips on the shoulder we can get, especially going into training camp... Third, he argues the Saints struggle on the road - he fails to mention that the Saints and Pats own the best road record since 2009... Finally, read his @$$hat criticism of the defense that the big acquisition was Byrd, had offseason surgery, and leaves adding only Champ Bailey... How is it a step back in personnel when you rid yourself of the worst (2012) safety tandem in NFL history in Harper and Jenkins and now have potentially the best three safety rotation in the league in Vacarro, Byrd and Bush?!? LOOK AT THE SOURCE... jnormand, hagan714, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.
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07-20-2014, 03:54 PM	#6
jjasso007 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre First of all, the writer is Darin Gantt a former beat hack for the Carolina Panthers - so he basically eats out of Cam Newton's @$$... Secondly, prefer all the ammunition and chips on the shoulder we can get, especially going into training camp... Third, he argues the Saints struggle on the road - he fails to mention that the Saints and Pats own the best road record since 2009... Finally, read his @$$hat criticism of the defense that the big acquisition was Byrd, had offseason surgery, and leaves adding only Champ Bailey... How is it a step back in personnel when you rid yourself of the worst (2012) safety tandem in NFL history in Harper and Jenkins and now have potentially the best three safety rotation in the league in Vacarro, Byrd and Bush?!? LOOK AT THE SOURCE... Were Jenkins/Harper worse then Tebucky Jones/Jay Bellamy or Josh Bullocks/Dwight Smith?

07-20-2014, 10:26 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Originally Posted by jjasso007 Were Jenkins/Harper worse then Tebucky Jones/Jay Bellamy or Josh Bullocks/Dwight Smith? Statistically, yes... In 2012 they led the worse defense ever... Jenkins/Harper were better than you or I but even that bell curve doesn't make them good... We got better when Vaccaro took PT away from an "injured" Harper and when Bush replaced Jenkins; add Byrd, your comparing apples to turds... blackangold and K Major like this.
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07-20-2014, 09:18 AM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Preseason Power Rankings No. 6: New Orleans Saints \| ProFootballTalk The only problem is, the Saints still might not have sufficient personnel on that side of the ball, so regression is a real possibility. But other than bringing in last-legs cornerback Champ Bailey, there wasn’t the kind of influx of talent they might have needed. They improved last year based largely on energy and emotion, and we’ll see how long that lasts in the face of a talent discrepancy. It's laughable really. Gantt spouted this same thing all last year, it's like these people are completely unwilling to see the obvious. Flood this fool with comments. It's much more likely this writer's precious Panthers will severely regress in all phases.

07-20-2014, 11:42 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense Source: ProFootballFocus foreverfan likes this.

07-20-2014, 11:57 AM	#10
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: PFT still thinks we have a lack of talent on defense So is he saying that if Byrd is 100% we will be much improved?? It merits asking...especially since Byrd's surgery was precautionary and he is 100%.

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