Which players are on the bubble?

billyt81 · 07-28-2014, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by triman

Danno I really tried to like Ingram . He just hasn't panned out. It might be how we use him . He has failed repeatedly in clutch situations. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so

The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem.

dizzle88 · 07-28-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem.

Exactly, that's why the early season struggles we had were to do with our O line rather than the RB's

If our O line can put together consistent performances in run blocking, all our RB's will be tough to stop

The Dude · 07-24-2014, 10:01 PM

Tanner, Toon, Morgan are all on the bubble I believe. They have all had ample time to catch on. I think Morgan is the front runner if he can stay healthy.
Every kicker is on the bubble
I think this is INgrams last shot. I don't see him being on the training camp bubble but an in season trade is a possibility if he starts the season like he normally does. In any case he needs to pick up where he left off last year.
I do think Payton is going to be more committed to the run this season and Ingram will have a chance to put the "he just needs carries" theory to the test.

homerj07 · 07-28-2014, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Tanner, Toon, Morgan are all on the bubble I believe. They have all had ample time to catch on. I think Morgan is the front runner if he can stay healthy.
Every kicker is on the bubble
I think this is INgrams last shot. I don't see him being on the training camp bubble but an in season trade is a possibility if he starts the season like he normally does. In any case he needs to pick up where he left off last year.
I do think Payton is going to be more committed to the run this season and Ingram will have a chance to put the "he just needs carries" theory to the test.

Don't we say we are gonna run the ball more every year? We did it well in 09. I think we need to do it well again to get into and go far in the playoffs.

hagan714 · 07-25-2014, 07:57 AM

1. Mark Ingram - bubble hell yeah. but not in camp IMO. if he does not produce regularly and stay healthy he has a chance to bring us a comp pick just maybe at seasons end

2. Nick Toon - gotta hold onto the ball

3. Joe Morgan - can he stay health

4. CBs - special teams bust.

dizzle88 · 07-25-2014, 08:13 AM

Nick toon is in danger

For 3 straight years all I've heard is how good he looks in training camp, that doesn't mean squat if you can't stay healthy or when you do get on the field you drop more passes than you catch

He really needs to step up, I still hold him accountable for the loss vs jets

darstep · 07-25-2014, 01:27 PM

Joe Morgan at least has a chance with kick/punt return abilities.
Toon just has to make it happen within the offense.
Ingram did OK late in the season. Personally I like PT better; more versatile and better vision.
Payton's game plan is situational and won't give any of them enough carries to turn heads with their numbers.
Even if they have a +100 game this week, it just doesn't transfer to the next week.
The one thing we know is that they have no problem with new blood.
Players who prove they belong will be around.
Ingram is contract safe and would really have to fall flat to not get his share of opportunities.
When the roster is down to actives + PSquads, I'm thinking we will look pretty good.

Jack Vegas · 07-25-2014, 01:52 PM

Ingram? come on.

Players who are actually probably on the bubble.

McCown - I could see Griffin making him expendable.
Cadet - If he doesn't have a very good preseason, he's gone IMO.
Morgan and Meachem - IMO one of these two is gone because they play essentially the same role in the offense.
Marcel Jones - time to put up or shut up for him.
Sweeting - too many good players ahead of him.

billyt81 · 07-26-2014, 04:12 PM

Ingram will make the team. Toon is on the bubble but I think he'll eventually outplay Coleman and Hull although it's not a sure thing. I could see Hull being a special team star because he played safety in college he can surely cover kicks. Morgan will either start or we're done with him. If Morgan is healthy he's a star. He reminds me a lot of Joe Horn. But if he gets hurt again I give up. Could Pierre Thomas get outplayed by Tim Flanders or Cadet? Doubtful.

vpheughan · 07-27-2014, 10:55 AM

What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now?

07-28-2014, 12:31 PM	#1
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by triman Danno I really tried to like Ingram . He just hasn't panned out. It might be how we use him . He has failed repeatedly in clutch situations. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem.

07-28-2014, 12:39 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by billyt81 The problem with bashing Ingram is that he had the best YPC for the Saints last year. now that we can stretch a defense with some speed at WR well see. i mean every back the Bucs used last year ran for 200yds it seemed. maybe irs the line or the sysrem. Exactly, that's why the early season struggles we had were to do with our O line rather than the RB's If our O line can put together consistent performances in run blocking, all our RB's will be tough to stop

07-24-2014, 10:01 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Tanner, Toon, Morgan are all on the bubble I believe. They have all had ample time to catch on. I think Morgan is the front runner if he can stay healthy. Every kicker is on the bubble I think this is INgrams last shot. I don't see him being on the training camp bubble but an in season trade is a possibility if he starts the season like he normally does. In any case he needs to pick up where he left off last year. I do think Payton is going to be more committed to the run this season and Ingram will have a chance to put the "he just needs carries" theory to the test.
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07-28-2014, 02:29 PM	#4
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by The Dude Tanner, Toon, Morgan are all on the bubble I believe. They have all had ample time to catch on. I think Morgan is the front runner if he can stay healthy. Every kicker is on the bubble I think this is INgrams last shot. I don't see him being on the training camp bubble but an in season trade is a possibility if he starts the season like he normally does. In any case he needs to pick up where he left off last year. I do think Payton is going to be more committed to the run this season and Ingram will have a chance to put the "he just needs carries" theory to the test. Don't we say we are gonna run the ball more every year? We did it well in 09. I think we need to do it well again to get into and go far in the playoffs.

07-25-2014, 07:57 AM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Which players are on the bubble? 1. Mark Ingram - bubble hell yeah. but not in camp IMO. if he does not produce regularly and stay healthy he has a chance to bring us a comp pick just maybe at seasons end 2. Nick Toon - gotta hold onto the ball 3. Joe Morgan - can he stay health 4. CBs - special teams bust.

07-25-2014, 08:13 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Nick toon is in danger For 3 straight years all I've heard is how good he looks in training camp, that doesn't mean squat if you can't stay healthy or when you do get on the field you drop more passes than you catch He really needs to step up, I still hold him accountable for the loss vs jets CoreyO and Schmohams like this.

07-25-2014, 01:27 PM	#7
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Joe Morgan at least has a chance with kick/punt return abilities. Toon just has to make it happen within the offense. Ingram did OK late in the season. Personally I like PT better; more versatile and better vision. Payton's game plan is situational and won't give any of them enough carries to turn heads with their numbers. Even if they have a +100 game this week, it just doesn't transfer to the next week. The one thing we know is that they have no problem with new blood. Players who prove they belong will be around. Ingram is contract safe and would really have to fall flat to not get his share of opportunities. When the roster is down to actives + PSquads, I'm thinking we will look pretty good.
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07-25-2014, 01:52 PM	#8
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Ingram? come on. Players who are actually probably on the bubble. McCown - I could see Griffin making him expendable. Cadet - If he doesn't have a very good preseason, he's gone IMO. Morgan and Meachem - IMO one of these two is gone because they play essentially the same role in the offense. Marcel Jones - time to put up or shut up for him. Sweeting - too many good players ahead of him.
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07-26-2014, 04:12 PM	#9
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Ingram will make the team. Toon is on the bubble but I think he'll eventually outplay Coleman and Hull although it's not a sure thing. I could see Hull being a special team star because he played safety in college he can surely cover kicks. Morgan will either start or we're done with him. If Morgan is healthy he's a star. He reminds me a lot of Joe Horn. But if he gets hurt again I give up. Could Pierre Thomas get outplayed by Tim Flanders or Cadet? Doubtful.

07-27-2014, 10:55 AM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546	Re: Which players are on the bubble? What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now?
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