Which players are on the bubble?

|Mitch| · 07-27-2014, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now?

Drew would have ended up in Miami and Saban may still be in the NFL

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 01:13 PM

If Meachem can't get on the field, he isn't going to make the team.

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 03:34 PM

^ PT was knocked out though. Hard to blame a guy for not holding the ball when he is literally unconscious.

I don't judge Ingram based on that one fumble. I will say that we have gone into offseasons before believing that he has turned the corner (2012 most notably) and he fell flat on his face. Pretty safe to say he's on his last chance.

dizzle88 · 07-28-2014, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

^ PT was knocked out though. Hard to blame a guy for not holding the ball when he is literally unconscious.

I don't judge Ingram based on that one fumble. I will say that we have gone into offseasons before believing that he has turned the corner (2012 most notably) and he fell flat on his face. Pretty safe to say he's on his last chance.

Ingram didn't fumble all through the regular season and had one when a guys helmet hit the ball in the playoff game
Unfortunately it happened but the fact of "we could have won that game" stretches far beyond ingrams fumble - Brees missed several wide open receivers in that game, Jimmy Graham dropped at least 3 passes and the defense was on the field entirely too long

Mistakes happen but one fumble has not jeapordised Ingram's chances, after this season he will most likely get an extension for 2 more years anyway because he knows the offense and we'll be able to sign him for a decent amount

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 06:45 PM

I wasn't referring to his one fumble, I was referring to his history of inconsistent play. I want to believe he's turned it around. We'll soon find out.

Danno · 07-28-2014, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I wasn't referring to his one fumble, I was referring to his history of inconsistent play. I want to believe he's turned it around. We'll soon find out.

There was NOTHING inconsistent about his play.

When he was surrounded and pummeled by 3 defenders 3 yards behind the LOS, he didn't gain much.

When the O-line actually blocked, he performed well.

jjasso007 · 07-28-2014, 07:03 PM

Bubble Players

Marcel Jones - been injured and on the practice squad. If he doesn't prove himself this pre-season, I think he gets the axe with other talent around

Travaris Cadet - with the beast that is Khiry Robinson, we have three legitimate running backs. Plus Brandin Cooks can fill the "Sproles" role for this team, so the 4th running back spot may be negated, allowing someone else at another position to make the team instead

Kenyuta Dawson - a lot of young players at the OLB position. Dawson could be cut allowing someone like Ronald Powell the opportunity to show what he can do

Corey White - with the staff playing him at Safety this offseason, does that mean they don't necessarily have the confidence in him going forward as a #2-4 CB? If so, with so much competition at Safety, and some dewcent players at CB, White could find himself out of a job if other players step their game up and he doesn't

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by jjasso007

Corey White - with the staff playing him at Safety this offseason, does that mean they don't necessarily have the confidence in him going forward as a #2-4 CB?

No, it means that Byrd isn't playing and somebody has to fill in. Coaching staff already knows what they're going to get from White at corner, not so much with Robinson and Bailey.

Honestly, I think they expect P-Rob to win the job anyway and Bailey is probably set as the nickel/slot guy. I don't think that reflects poorly on Corey White, we just have a very strong group of corners.

halloween 65 · 07-28-2014, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

No, it means that Byrd isn't playing and somebody has to fill in. Coaching staff already knows what they're going to get from White at corner, not so much with Robinson and Bailey.

Honestly, I think they expect P-Rob to win the job anyway and Bailey is probably set as the nickel/slot guy. I don't think that reflects poorly on Corey White, we just have a very strong group of corners.

I do agree, White is a good #3. He also could excell at FS, he has good speed for that position and tackles very well, I'm curios to see how he's doing at FS.

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

There was NOTHING inconsistent about his play.

When he was surrounded and pummeled by 3 defenders 3 yards behind the LOS, he didn't gain much.

When the O-line actually blocked, he performed well.

Not getting into another Ingram discussion, let's just say we disagree on some points and leave it there.

07-27-2014, 10:57 AM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by vpheughan What if he didn't get hurt and we won that playoff game and The Haz never got fired a year later than he did and Payton went to Green Bay and .........................we wouldn't be palying what if right now? Drew would have ended up in Miami and Saban may still be in the NFL

07-28-2014, 01:13 PM	#2
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07-28-2014, 03:34 PM	#3
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? ^ PT was knocked out though. Hard to blame a guy for not holding the ball when he is literally unconscious. I don't judge Ingram based on that one fumble. I will say that we have gone into offseasons before believing that he has turned the corner (2012 most notably) and he fell flat on his face. Pretty safe to say he's on his last chance.
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07-28-2014, 03:41 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas ^ PT was knocked out though. Hard to blame a guy for not holding the ball when he is literally unconscious. I don't judge Ingram based on that one fumble. I will say that we have gone into offseasons before believing that he has turned the corner (2012 most notably) and he fell flat on his face. Pretty safe to say he's on his last chance. Ingram didn't fumble all through the regular season and had one when a guys helmet hit the ball in the playoff game Unfortunately it happened but the fact of "we could have won that game" stretches far beyond ingrams fumble - Brees missed several wide open receivers in that game, Jimmy Graham dropped at least 3 passes and the defense was on the field entirely too long Mistakes happen but one fumble has not jeapordised Ingram's chances, after this season he will most likely get an extension for 2 more years anyway because he knows the offense and we'll be able to sign him for a decent amount
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07-28-2014, 06:45 PM	#5
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? I wasn't referring to his one fumble, I was referring to his history of inconsistent play. I want to believe he's turned it around. We'll soon find out.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,750	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I wasn't referring to his one fumble, I was referring to his history of inconsistent play. I want to believe he's turned it around. We'll soon find out. There was NOTHING inconsistent about his play. When he was surrounded and pummeled by 3 defenders 3 yards behind the LOS, he didn't gain much. When the O-line actually blocked, he performed well. billyt81 likes this.

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jjasso007 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Bubble Players Marcel Jones - been injured and on the practice squad. If he doesn't prove himself this pre-season, I think he gets the axe with other talent around Travaris Cadet - with the beast that is Khiry Robinson, we have three legitimate running backs. Plus Brandin Cooks can fill the "Sproles" role for this team, so the 4th running back spot may be negated, allowing someone else at another position to make the team instead Kenyuta Dawson - a lot of young players at the OLB position. Dawson could be cut allowing someone like Ronald Powell the opportunity to show what he can do Corey White - with the staff playing him at Safety this offseason, does that mean they don't necessarily have the confidence in him going forward as a #2-4 CB? If so, with so much competition at Safety, and some dewcent players at CB, White could find himself out of a job if other players step their game up and he doesn't

07-28-2014, 08:10 PM	#8
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by jjasso007 Corey White - with the staff playing him at Safety this offseason, does that mean they don't necessarily have the confidence in him going forward as a #2-4 CB? No, it means that Byrd isn't playing and somebody has to fill in. Coaching staff already knows what they're going to get from White at corner, not so much with Robinson and Bailey. Honestly, I think they expect P-Rob to win the job anyway and Bailey is probably set as the nickel/slot guy. I don't think that reflects poorly on Corey White, we just have a very strong group of corners. halloween 65 likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas No, it means that Byrd isn't playing and somebody has to fill in. Coaching staff already knows what they're going to get from White at corner, not so much with Robinson and Bailey. Honestly, I think they expect P-Rob to win the job anyway and Bailey is probably set as the nickel/slot guy. I don't think that reflects poorly on Corey White, we just have a very strong group of corners. I do agree, White is a good #3. He also could excell at FS, he has good speed for that position and tackles very well, I'm curios to see how he's doing at FS.

07-28-2014, 08:05 PM	#10
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Which players are on the bubble? Originally Posted by Danno There was NOTHING inconsistent about his play. When he was surrounded and pummeled by 3 defenders 3 yards behind the LOS, he didn't gain much. When the O-line actually blocked, he performed well. Not getting into another Ingram discussion, let's just say we disagree on some points and leave it there.
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