Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down

Danno · 07-28-2014, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

question is were was Corey playing inside or outside?

I still can't find anything that says he was getting beat on every deep pass.

I read he got beat on one play against Cooks.

By the way, he's taking a lot of snaps at FS with Byrd out, which I think is a good move.

homerj07 · 07-28-2014, 03:38 PM

I don't know who my dark horse is right now. I really want to see Cooks do well. We don't have the best track record with 1st rounds WRs

zachsaints52 · 07-28-2014, 04:29 PM

Flanders and Coleman, if they get designated to PS, will be picked up by other teams.

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2014, 04:35 PM

^Not unless they get a mysterious leg injury, wink wink

rezburna · 07-28-2014, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

It sounds like Coleman is playing a LOT better than he did at rookie camp, which is encouraging. I still think he is a practice squad guy or IR since we seem to "red shirt" rookie WRs a lot.

I have not read anything about Corey White getting beat a lot. In fact I have not read anything about him at all. I do think P-Rob is easily the frontrunner at #2 corner if his leg is right. I like both players a lot. I do believe Champ is probably firmly locked into the nickel/slot role at this point.

Everything I've read says Champ is the starter opposite Lewis and that he's only run with the 1st string. Y'all don't sleep on Champ Bailey.

Jack Vegas · 07-29-2014, 01:52 AM

^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on).

If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps.

SaintLeonard · 07-29-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on).

If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps.

I say Corey White stays our #2 CB, with Bailey in the nickel. White did an awesome job last year all things considered. He was pretty much thrown into the fire with not a lot of experience at the CB position, and of course he had a few bumps here and there, but he progressively got better as the season went on. If his level of play from last year carries over into this year, I don't see any reason why he'd be unseated at the position.

rezburna · 07-29-2014, 05:06 PM

I think Patrick Robinson is hands down better then Corey White. I feel like Corey White is just another Malcolm Jenkins with better speed. They can't figure out if he's a corner or safety.

Schmohams · 07-29-2014, 06:54 PM

I'd say stock down for Ryan Griffen. Every interception I see is thrown by him. I'm not saying he can't develop more but c'mon this is 7-on-7 for Christ sake. I don't have as much faith in this guy becoming the next Chase Daniel as I used to.

hagan714 · 07-30-2014, 11:28 AM

If healthy Robinson should win the #2

Now White and Champ man the middle.

Champ gets the quicker slot

White goes strong side (TE) and has running back duties.

I today's pass happy NFL it is weird to be using nickle and dime as much as it is SS and FS.

There is no such thing as a pure SS any more. same goes for CB now.

07-28-2014, 11:07 AM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by hagan714 question is were was Corey playing inside or outside? I still can't find anything that says he was getting beat on every deep pass. I read he got beat on one play against Cooks. By the way, he's taking a lot of snaps at FS with Byrd out, which I think is a good move. hagan714 likes this.

07-28-2014, 03:38 PM	#12
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down I don't know who my dark horse is right now. I really want to see Cooks do well. We don't have the best track record with 1st rounds WRs

07-28-2014, 04:29 PM	#13
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Flanders and Coleman, if they get designated to PS, will be picked up by other teams.

07-28-2014, 04:35 PM	#14
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down ^Not unless they get a mysterious leg injury, wink wink
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07-28-2014, 05:37 PM	#15
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by Jack Vegas It sounds like Coleman is playing a LOT better than he did at rookie camp, which is encouraging. I still think he is a practice squad guy or IR since we seem to "red shirt" rookie WRs a lot. I have not read anything about Corey White getting beat a lot. In fact I have not read anything about him at all. I do think P-Rob is easily the frontrunner at #2 corner if his leg is right. I like both players a lot. I do believe Champ is probably firmly locked into the nickel/slot role at this point. Everything I've read says Champ is the starter opposite Lewis and that he's only run with the 1st string. Y'all don't sleep on Champ Bailey.

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07-29-2014, 01:52 AM	#16
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down ^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on). If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps.
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07-29-2014, 04:51 PM	#17
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by Jack Vegas ^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on). If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps. I say Corey White stays our #2 CB, with Bailey in the nickel. White did an awesome job last year all things considered. He was pretty much thrown into the fire with not a lot of experience at the CB position, and of course he had a few bumps here and there, but he progressively got better as the season went on. If his level of play from last year carries over into this year, I don't see any reason why he'd be unseated at the position.

07-29-2014, 05:06 PM	#18
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down I think Patrick Robinson is hands down better then Corey White. I feel like Corey White is just another Malcolm Jenkins with better speed. They can't figure out if he's a corner or safety.

07-29-2014, 06:54 PM	#19
Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down I'd say stock down for Ryan Griffen. Every interception I see is thrown by him. I'm not saying he can't develop more but c'mon this is 7-on-7 for Christ sake. I don't have as much faith in this guy becoming the next Chase Daniel as I used to. MarchingOn likes this.

07-30-2014, 11:28 AM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down If healthy Robinson should win the #2 Now White and Champ man the middle. Champ gets the quicker slot White goes strong side (TE) and has running back duties. I today's pass happy NFL it is weird to be using nickle and dime as much as it is SS and FS. There is no such thing as a pure SS any more. same goes for CB now.

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