Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum

hagan714 · 08-05-2014, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Keeping Coleman on the 53 might be a mistake. He'd easily clear waivers and we can place him on the 53.

He's a tall WR, slow off the line, trouble separating but with good top end speed. As one of the "experts" said, there are virtually no WR's in the league with similar measurables. They just don't do that well in the NFL.

Keeping him means we cut someone like Warren, Sunseri, Hill, Sweeting, Hamm etc...

Sunseri is looking like odd man out at the safety position right now. it is to early to tell IMO to much camp left to go.

But i am in the it is highly unlikely he clears waivers and even more unlikely we could retain him if he did.

health wise i say he has a leg up on a few WR right now.

now can he continue to improve catching the ball enough to make a statement to make the team?

test one friday night

dizzle88 · 08-05-2014, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Sunseri is looking like odd man out at the safety position right now. it is to early to tell IMO to much camp left to go.

But i am in the it is highly unlikely he clears waivers and even more unlikely we could retain him if he did.

health wise i say he has a leg up on a few WR right now.

now can he continue to improve catching the ball enough to make a statement to make the team?

test one friday night

Precisely the reason I wish we still had Curtis Johnson as the wide receivers coach, the wonders he worked with devery Henderson on catching the ball was incredible

Danno · 08-05-2014, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Sunseri is looking like odd man out at the safety position right now. it is to early to tell IMO to much camp left to go.

But i am in the it is highly unlikely he clears waivers and even more unlikely we could retain him if he did.

health wise i say he has a leg up on a few WR right now.

now can he continue to improve catching the ball enough to make a statement to make the team?

test one friday night

If we keep 6 WR's, we have
Colston
Stills
Cooks
Toon

Then two from this group...
Meachem (has looked good in camp)
Morgan (proven to be talented and fragile)
Jones (having an impressive camp)
Hull (PS candidate, decent camp)
Coleman (a two year project with huge upside)
Tanner (probably his final camp as a Saint)

He has a shot, but as you said its way way too early to predict the bottom of the roster.

hagan714 · 08-05-2014, 12:47 PM

Toon is still on the fence i bet. he has had good camps before. but has the inside track

as for the rest they have a ton more of camp to go.

zachsaints52 · 08-05-2014, 12:52 PM

Could you imagine red zone with Colston, Jimmy, Coleman, PT23/Khiry, and Cooks?

jnormand · 08-05-2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

In that scouting report they called colston lazy......

You mean the guy that has 63 career TD's and nearly 9000 yards receiving, yeah of course.......

Its funny to see that now huh? One of the best players in Saints history and a true role model on AND off the field. No drama. Just a worker.

CoreyO · 08-05-2014, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Toon is still on the fence i bet. he has had good camps before. but has the inside track

as for the rest they have a ton more of camp to go.

Idk about that i saw a report somewhere of Sean saying its different this year with toon. Its not just a good camp, like the last ones, he is hungry for it.

Danno · 08-05-2014, 01:46 PM

Toon has had 1 good camp before. People talk like he's been here 4 or 5 years.

I don't get it. Did the Jets drop really butthurt people that much?

ChrisXVI · 08-05-2014, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Toon has had 1 good camp before. People talk like he's been here 4 or 5 years.

I don't get it. Did the Jets drop really butthurt people that much?

He's had 3 good training camps now. Yes in his rookie year he got hurt at the end of the preseason but he's had tons of opportunity in 3 years to get a couple of reps if he was any good.

Danno · 08-05-2014, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He's had 3 good training camps now. Yes in his rookie year he got hurt at the end of the preseason but he's had tons of opportunity in 3 years to get a couple of reps if he was any good.

2012- Toon hurt his foot before the 1st preseason game and didn't play in any of the pre-season games and was placed on IR before the final 53 was set. Never played in a game, couldn't practice with the team all year. Also Coach Payton was suspended the entire year.

*Correction: He played in the very last preseason game and had 2 catches.

New Orleans Saints wide receiver Nick Toon was placed on the injured reserve list ending his season before it even started. Toon had been battling a left foot injury for the entire preseason but he finally played in the Saints’ preseason finale against the Tennessee Titans.

NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver Nick Toon Might Need Foot Surgery

2013-He had a good camp last year, good enough to make the team.

2014-He's having a great camp so far (it hasn't even been two weeks yet)

So he's had one good camp so far and has not had "tons of opportunity".

08-05-2014, 12:22 PM	#11
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by Danno Keeping Coleman on the 53 might be a mistake. He'd easily clear waivers and we can place him on the 53. He's a tall WR, slow off the line, trouble separating but with good top end speed. As one of the "experts" said, there are virtually no WR's in the league with similar measurables. They just don't do that well in the NFL. Keeping him means we cut someone like Warren, Sunseri, Hill, Sweeting, Hamm etc... Sunseri is looking like odd man out at the safety position right now. it is to early to tell IMO to much camp left to go. But i am in the it is highly unlikely he clears waivers and even more unlikely we could retain him if he did. health wise i say he has a leg up on a few WR right now. now can he continue to improve catching the ball enough to make a statement to make the team? test one friday night

08-05-2014, 12:29 PM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by hagan714 Sunseri is looking like odd man out at the safety position right now. it is to early to tell IMO to much camp left to go. But i am in the it is highly unlikely he clears waivers and even more unlikely we could retain him if he did. health wise i say he has a leg up on a few WR right now. now can he continue to improve catching the ball enough to make a statement to make the team? test one friday night Precisely the reason I wish we still had Curtis Johnson as the wide receivers coach, the wonders he worked with devery Henderson on catching the ball was incredible

08-05-2014, 12:37 PM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by hagan714 Sunseri is looking like odd man out at the safety position right now. it is to early to tell IMO to much camp left to go. But i am in the it is highly unlikely he clears waivers and even more unlikely we could retain him if he did. health wise i say he has a leg up on a few WR right now. now can he continue to improve catching the ball enough to make a statement to make the team? test one friday night If we keep 6 WR's, we have Colston Stills Cooks Toon Then two from this group... Meachem (has looked good in camp) Morgan (proven to be talented and fragile) Jones (having an impressive camp) Hull (PS candidate, decent camp) Coleman (a two year project with huge upside) Tanner (probably his final camp as a Saint) He has a shot, but as you said its way way too early to predict the bottom of the roster.

08-05-2014, 12:47 PM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Toon is still on the fence i bet. he has had good camps before. but has the inside track as for the rest they have a ton more of camp to go.

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zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Could you imagine red zone with Colston, Jimmy, Coleman, PT23/Khiry, and Cooks?

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08-05-2014, 01:19 PM	#16
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by dizzle88 In that scouting report they called colston lazy...... You mean the guy that has 63 career TD's and nearly 9000 yards receiving, yeah of course....... Its funny to see that now huh? One of the best players in Saints history and a true role model on AND off the field. No drama. Just a worker. dizzle88 and CoreyO like this.

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CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by hagan714 Toon is still on the fence i bet. he has had good camps before. but has the inside track as for the rest they have a ton more of camp to go. Idk about that i saw a report somewhere of Sean saying its different this year with toon. Its not just a good camp, like the last ones, he is hungry for it.
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08-05-2014, 01:46 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Toon has had 1 good camp before. People talk like he's been here 4 or 5 years. I don't get it. Did the Jets drop really butthurt people that much?

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by Danno Toon has had 1 good camp before. People talk like he's been here 4 or 5 years. I don't get it. Did the Jets drop really butthurt people that much? He's had 3 good training camps now. Yes in his rookie year he got hurt at the end of the preseason but he's had tons of opportunity in 3 years to get a couple of reps if he was any good.

08-05-2014, 05:40 PM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Brandon Coleman, An Intriguing Conundrum Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He's had 3 good training camps now. Yes in his rookie year he got hurt at the end of the preseason but he's had tons of opportunity in 3 years to get a couple of reps if he was any good. 2012- Toon hurt his foot before the 1st preseason game and didn't play in any of the pre-season games and was placed on IR before the final 53 was set. Never played in a game, couldn't practice with the team all year. Also Coach Payton was suspended the entire year. Correction: He played in the very last preseason game and had 2 catches. New Orleans Saints wide receiver Nick Toon was placed on the injured reserve list ending his season before it even started. Toon had been battling a left foot injury for the entire preseason but he finally played in the Saints’ preseason finale against the Tennessee Titans.* NFL Rumors: New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver Nick Toon Might Need Foot Surgery 2013-He had a good camp last year, good enough to make the team. 2014-He's having a great camp so far (it hasn't even been two weeks yet) So he's had one good camp so far and has not had "tons of opportunity".

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