We should have seen this coming

blackangold · 09-14-2014, 05:49 PM

Rob Ryan is known for his great first years with teams. First the Browns then Cowboys and now us. Rob Ryan is known for coming in to ****ty teams and turning them around the first year which is then followed by awful performances every year thereafter.

We should have seen this coming. Rob Ryan's first year was a fluke and at best we'll have the 20th ranked defense. Right now I would be happy with anything better than 32nd...

Trying not to start the fire Rob Ryan train. I am just bringing up his history.

Srgt. Hulka · 09-14-2014, 05:53 PM

As a matter of fact...
This is from the poll someone posted a few weeks back.

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

You guys are far more in the know on the team than I am. I have been out of the loop for most of the offseason. Plus, I haven't even seen the third pre-season game (but I have it recoded). From what I've seen so far though, the defensive secondary scare the heck out of me. I hate to be a downer, but if our corners don't tighten up, at least from what I've seen, it's gone one big play after another for the other team all season long.
I'm thinking at best 10-6 for the season. Someone please set me straight and set my mind at ease.

Danno · 09-14-2014, 06:13 PM

Not getting this at all.

In Cleveland his 1st year they ranked 31st. In his 2nd season they ranked 22nd. That's a 9 game improvement

In Dallas they only dropped 5 spots in his 2nd season after being devastated by injuries to his key defensive personnel.

In Oakland they went from 30th to 27th in his 2nd season. And went to 3rd in his 3rd season

Not buying that theory at all.

saintsfan403 · 09-14-2014, 06:32 PM

Atlanta has a worse ranked defense (yards allowed), I know that for a fact.

Rugby Saint II · 09-15-2014, 03:48 PM

Calm down ya'll...............we got this!

QBREES9 · 09-16-2014, 01:53 AM

It will turn around.

foreverfan · 09-16-2014, 02:34 AM

Did I miss something... Is the season over yet?

saintsfan1976 · 09-16-2014, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Did I miss something... Is the season over yet?

For some here, yes. Payton not performing up to their expectations so it's freak out mode... 14 games left. 1 division game played. First home game this week.

I'd be more concerned about 0-2 if we didn't have the ability.

TheOak · 09-16-2014, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

For some here, yes. Payton not performing up to their expectations so it's freak out mode... 14 games left. 1 division game played. First home game this week.

I'd be more concerned about 0-2 if we didn't have the ability.

Expectations have become unreasonable.

MatthewT · 09-16-2014, 08:18 AM

I doubt Ryan is the issue. Let us think for a moment, lots of high draft picks devoted to defense, a ton of free agent money spent, and some excellent coaches. Gary Gibbs, Gregg Williams, Steve Spagnuolo, and now Rob Ryan. Since 2006 that is 4 defensive coordinators, overall success very minimal, despite all the work, money, and draft picks devoted to the defense.

It is very puzzling. We know Sean Payton can coach, we know Mickey Loomis can build a team, so what gives? With all the talent the Saints have acquired since 2006, why only 1 Super Bowl and besides the Super Bowl season only one other trip to the NFC Championship game? We all know the answer is the defense has basically not held up, the question is why???

09-14-2014, 05:49 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	We should have seen this coming Rob Ryan is known for his great first years with teams. First the Browns then Cowboys and now us. Rob Ryan is known for coming in to ****ty teams and turning them around the first year which is then followed by awful performances every year thereafter. We should have seen this coming. Rob Ryan's first year was a fluke and at best we'll have the 20th ranked defense. Right now I would be happy with anything better than 32nd... Trying not to start the fire Rob Ryan train. I am just bringing up his history.

09-14-2014, 05:53 PM	#2
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: We should have seen this coming As a matter of fact... This is from the poll someone posted a few weeks back. Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka You guys are far more in the know on the team than I am. I have been out of the loop for most of the offseason. Plus, I haven't even seen the third pre-season game (but I have it recoded). From what I've seen so far though, the defensive secondary scare the heck out of me. I hate to be a downer, but if our corners don't tighten up, at least from what I've seen, it's gone one big play after another for the other team all season long. I'm thinking at best 10-6 for the season. Someone please set me straight and set my mind at ease. Mardigras9 likes this.

09-14-2014, 06:13 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: We should have seen this coming Not getting this at all. In Cleveland his 1st year they ranked 31st. In his 2nd season they ranked 22nd. That's a 9 game improvement In Dallas they only dropped 5 spots in his 2nd season after being devastated by injuries to his key defensive personnel. In Oakland they went from 30th to 27th in his 2nd season. And went to 3rd in his 3rd season Not buying that theory at all. QBREES9 and saintsfan403 like this.

09-14-2014, 06:32 PM	#4
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: We should have seen this coming Atlanta has a worse ranked defense (yards allowed), I know that for a fact.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: We should have seen this coming Calm down ya'll...............we got this! saintfan, exile and 73Saint like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We should have seen this coming Originally Posted by foreverfan Did I miss something... Is the season over yet? For some here, yes. Payton not performing up to their expectations so it's freak out mode... 14 games left. 1 division game played. First home game this week. I'd be more concerned about 0-2 if we didn't have the ability.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: We should have seen this coming Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 For some here, yes. Payton not performing up to their expectations so it's freak out mode... 14 games left. 1 division game played. First home game this week. I'd be more concerned about 0-2 if we didn't have the ability. Expectations have become unreasonable. saintsfan1976 and 73Saint like this.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: We should have seen this coming I doubt Ryan is the issue. Let us think for a moment, lots of high draft picks devoted to defense, a ton of free agent money spent, and some excellent coaches. Gary Gibbs, Gregg Williams, Steve Spagnuolo, and now Rob Ryan. Since 2006 that is 4 defensive coordinators, overall success very minimal, despite all the work, money, and draft picks devoted to the defense. It is very puzzling. We know Sean Payton can coach, we know Mickey Loomis can build a team, so what gives? With all the talent the Saints have acquired since 2006, why only 1 Super Bowl and besides the Super Bowl season only one other trip to the NFC Championship game? We all know the answer is the defense has basically not held up, the question is why???

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