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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; 9 passes & 3 runs in 1st Qtr for 10 (yeah, TEN) yards. 1 bad snap that could have been a disaster, 1 sack that could have been a disaster. 1 false start penalty. So, I'm going 25/50/25 on 1st ...

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Old 09-15-2014, 08:29 AM   #21
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Re: Message to Drew Brees...

9 passes & 3 runs in 1st Qtr for 10 (yeah, TEN) yards. 1 bad snap that could have been a disaster, 1 sack that could have been a disaster. 1 false start penalty.

So, I'm going 25/50/25 on 1st Quarter offensive blame. Playcalling gets 25%; Brees gets 50% as he checked out of plays at the line plus made adjustments on-the-spot; O-line gets 25%. Pretty sure Brees is not on a short leash like a young QB and has as much flexibility or more with in-game adjustments as Brady or Manning.

Brees has played with worse O-Lines and against better Front 7's than CLE before, but 9 (NINE) First QTR yards of total offense?. You have to ID the man pulling the trigger and making the adjustments at the line of scrimmage to exploit what the defense is showing or trying to hide.

Sorry, but Brees helped contribute to the loss in Cleveland. It's idiotic to say it was mostly or all of his fault. I'm pretty dumb, but I ain't that stupid.

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Old 09-15-2014, 08:48 AM   #22
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Problems I see with Brees:

1) Declining arm strength, receivers are often coming back, slowing down on the deep balls; have mentioned this the past seasons and now it's becoming more frequent; it even got Stills injury aggravated in preseason...

2) Reluctance to run, he needs to pull the ball down a couple of times even if it's for a no gain to keep the linebackers from playing so deep and make their linemen run and get winded...

3) Locking on to one receiver (especially Graham) has become a problem (and I have Graham in my Keeper Leagues), but with what is committed in pay to Colston, and with him healthier than he's been for a while, why are we forcing the ball to Graham...

And, yes, since the big payday and all the new family which I am very, very happy for him - he's playing scared and he's gonna get killed playing like he's got everything to lose, hence the Rocky referenced video clips...

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Old 09-15-2014, 08:56 AM   #23
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Message to Drew, when the only thing that can take you out of FG range is a sack, when you get blitzed right up the middle, throw it away
How about Payton could and probably should have run the damn ball on that play.
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Old 09-15-2014, 09:18 AM   #24
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How about Payton could and probably should have run the damn ball on that play.
Well technically that should come under the heading "Message to Sean Payton"
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:22 AM   #25
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A wile old Vet got you. Drew nor the center nor the guard nor PT. picked up on what was going down.

Dansby’s secret info: According to ESPN.com Browns reporter Pat McManamon, Browns linebacker Karlos Dansby said he heard the Saints’ line call on a crucial third-and-5 play at Cleveland’s 31-yard line late in the fourth quarter (that they were going to protect outside right). So Dansby said he knew he could get a free lane up the middle for a sack against Brees. Indeed, Dansby flew in untouched and knocked the Saints out of field goal range.
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also this might be the issue

"It's frustrating because we expect to win," Brees said
New Orleans Saints vs. Cleveland Browns - Recap - September 14, 2014 - ESPN

never expect anything in the NFL and your the player that everyone looks to. It is your job help the coaches keep this mind set from happening.

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Old 09-15-2014, 11:45 AM   #26
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I thought the ball floated on Brees at first also, but the view from behind Graham looks like it was catchable. In the end the offense still did enough to win and the defense again couldn't come up with a stop.
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"It's frustrating because we expect to win," Brees said
New Orleans Saints vs. Cleveland Browns - Recap - September 14, 2014 - ESPN

never expect anything in the NFL and your the player that everyone looks to. It is your job help the coaches keep this mind set from happening.[/QUOTE]

These aren't the 70s Saints; although probably none would admit it I wouldn't doubt that most Saints players in the early years KNEW they weren't going to win.

I'm not sure how long I could/would continue being a Saints fan if after a loss I heard players/coaches say they "expected to lose".

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Re: Message to Drew Brees...

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Message to Drew, when the only thing that can take you out of FG range is a sack, when you get blitzed right up the middle, throw it away
Tell that to Pierre Thomas who blew his assignment, he was throwing the ball away all game saving us from sacks, the O-line had a bad game not drew
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Tell that to Pierre Thomas who blew his assignment, he was throwing the ball away all game saving us from sacks, the O-line had a bad game not drew
Then throw it at PT's feet.

The O-line did not have a bad day.
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The O-line did not have a bad day.
I thought that they were destroyed but the Browns d-line in the first quarter. By the second half they figured things out. Too little too late though.
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