The Dude

Brees made several good decisions in throwing the ball away under duress. There was a time where he would have tried to force the ball on those plays and would wind up with an interception.

WHODATINCA

You guys are missing the real issue here. If our O-Line can't pass protect better than they did today -- our $100M quarter back is going to the hospital.

Today was mostly on the O-Line. Like last year, when they couldn't run block to save their lives. Well, at least they learned how to do that in the off-season. It's like they can't walk and chew gum. Disappointing.

alleycat_126

This really has nothing to do with brees or jimmy. Brees airmailed it because of the ppressure. It was well over jimmys head. Nobody discussing the real issue. The playcalling!!!! You had finally started gaining an advantage before the int was thrown. Ingram who I have been highly critical of has gashed them repeatedly.... over and over. And then on a first down play instead of a formation that assists brew you go to a shotgun look with no running option....RUN DA DAMN BALL!!!!!

Jamessr

late night rambling?

WHODATINCA

Seriously?!! Our freaking O-Line needs to pass protect. Game manager is just a bunch of BS.

MatthewT

Brees is still a top notch QB in the NFL, but things appear to be changing. Brees has never done on the road what he does at home, which is normal, but that gap seems to be widening. It also seems like his deep passes are not as accurate as they were in the past. Maybe the line has something to do with it, maybe a true replacement for Devery Henderson has not been found, who knows. The way the running game has picked up, it would be reasonable to believe a guy like Brees should be hitting those deeper routes with more consistency, what I am noticing are more check downs the past couple years.

Please understand I am not trying to imply Brees is close to being done, but he appears to no longer be that superior elite quarterback, especially on the road.

Barry from MS

9 passes & 3 runs in 1st Qtr for 10 (yeah, TEN) yards. 1 bad snap that could have been a disaster, 1 sack that could have been a disaster. 1 false start penalty.

So, I'm going 25/50/25 on 1st Quarter offensive blame. Playcalling gets 25%; Brees gets 50% as he checked out of plays at the line plus made adjustments on-the-spot; O-line gets 25%. Pretty sure Brees is not on a short leash like a young QB and has as much flexibility or more with in-game adjustments as Brady or Manning.

Brees has played with worse O-Lines and against better Front 7's than CLE before, but 9 (NINE) First QTR yards of total offense?. You have to ID the man pulling the trigger and making the adjustments at the line of scrimmage to exploit what the defense is showing or trying to hide.

Sorry, but Brees helped contribute to the loss in Cleveland. It's idiotic to say it was mostly or all of his fault. I'm pretty dumb, but I ain't that stupid.

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jeanpierre

Problems I see with Brees:

1) Declining arm strength, receivers are often coming back, slowing down on the deep balls; have mentioned this the past seasons and now it's becoming more frequent; it even got Stills injury aggravated in preseason...

2) Reluctance to run, he needs to pull the ball down a couple of times even if it's for a no gain to keep the linebackers from playing so deep and make their linemen run and get winded...

3) Locking on to one receiver (especially Graham) has become a problem (and I have Graham in my Keeper Leagues), but with what is committed in pay to Colston, and with him healthier than he's been for a while, why are we forcing the ball to Graham...

And, yes, since the big payday and all the new family which I am very, very happy for him - he's playing scared and he's gonna get killed playing like he's got everything to lose, hence the Rocky referenced video clips...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

hagan714

A wile old Vet got you. Drew nor the center nor the guard nor PT. picked up on what was going down.

Dansby’s secret info: According to ESPN.com Browns reporter Pat McManamon, Browns linebacker Karlos Dansby said he heard the Saints’ line call on a crucial third-and-5 play at Cleveland’s 31-yard line late in the fourth quarter (that they were going to protect outside right). So Dansby said he knew he could get a free lane up the middle for a sack against Brees. Indeed, Dansby flew in untouched and knocked the Saints out of field goal range.
New Orleans Saints' biggest frustration: Not finishing - ESPN


also this might be the issue

"It's frustrating because we expect to win," Brees said
New Orleans Saints vs. Cleveland Browns - Recap - September 14, 2014 - ESPN

never expect anything in the NFL and your the player that everyone looks to. It is your job help the coaches keep this mind set from happening.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

WhoDat!656

"It's frustrating because we expect to win," Brees said
New Orleans Saints vs. Cleveland Browns - Recap - September 14, 2014 - ESPN

never expect anything in the NFL and your the player that everyone looks to. It is your job help the coaches keep this mind set from happening.[/QUOTE]

These aren't the 70s Saints; although probably none would admit it I wouldn't doubt that most Saints players in the early years KNEW they weren't going to win.

I'm not sure how long I could/would continue being a Saints fan if after a loss I heard players/coaches say they "expected to lose".

"A Veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life."