Offense

billyt81 · 09-15-2014, 01:45 PM

How many slightly off target passes has Jimmy Graham ignored? Against Atlanta a pass bounced off his leg and he made no effort to catch it. Against Cleveland a ball went right between his arms and was intercepted. I suspect he is letting his personal feelings toward Brees affect his effort. I believe Jimmy is the best pass catcher in the NFL and quite possibly a league MVP, but his effort is often piss poor. He still can't block and he avoids contact like he's Lance Moore. Everyone else on the team fights for every possible yard. Jimmy will be one on one with a corner and step out of bounds. I think this teams problems are in the locker room. If they don't come together as a team, they'll continue to get out hustled and outplayed.

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2014, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

How many slightly off target passes has Jimmy Graham ignored? Against Atlanta a pass bounced off his leg and he made no effort to catch it. Against Cleveland a ball went right between his arms and was intercepted. I suspect he is letting his personal feelings toward Brees affect his effort. I believe Jimmy is the best pass catcher in the NFL and quite possibly a league MVP, but his effort is often piss poor. He still can't block and he avoids contact like he's Lance Moore. Everyone else on the team fights for every possible yard. Jimmy will be one on one with a corner and step out of bounds. I think this teams problems are in the locker room. If they don't come together as a team, they'll continue to get out hustled and outplayed.

Just looked at the stats.

Graham is 5th in total yards (among all receivers)
Tied for first in 1st downs (among all receivers)
Is averaging a touchdown per game
He has a 78% catch percentage
And is tied with Gronk for 10th out of 56 tight ends in run blocking.

2014 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN
https://www.profootballfocus.com/dat...=25&numgames=1

That'll show Brees.

The Dude · 09-15-2014, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Just looked at the stats.

Graham is 5th in total yards (among all receivers)
Tied for first in 1st downs (among all receivers)
Is averaging a touchdown per game
He has a 78% catch percentage
And is tied with Gronk for 10th out of 56 tight ends in run blocking.

2014 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN
https://www.profootballfocus.com/dat...=25&numgames=1

That'll show Brees.

What personal feelings?

billyt81 · 09-15-2014, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

What personal feelings?

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

hagan714 · 09-15-2014, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

i do not know about all of that but next year when Drew can redo his contract Jimmy should feel better. if he does not then Jimmy will have plenty of company.

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2014, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

Where did you hear Jimmy was furious? I never heard that.

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2014, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

Jimmy's playing some of the best ball of his career. 78% completions would indicate that not only his he not ignoring any passes but he's catching more than he ever has.

09-15-2014, 01:45 PM	#1
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Offense How many slightly off target passes has Jimmy Graham ignored? Against Atlanta a pass bounced off his leg and he made no effort to catch it. Against Cleveland a ball went right between his arms and was intercepted. I suspect he is letting his personal feelings toward Brees affect his effort. I believe Jimmy is the best pass catcher in the NFL and quite possibly a league MVP, but his effort is often piss poor. He still can't block and he avoids contact like he's Lance Moore. Everyone else on the team fights for every possible yard. Jimmy will be one on one with a corner and step out of bounds. I think this teams problems are in the locker room. If they don't come together as a team, they'll continue to get out hustled and outplayed.

09-15-2014, 02:26 PM	#2
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 How many slightly off target passes has Jimmy Graham ignored? Against Atlanta a pass bounced off his leg and he made no effort to catch it. Against Cleveland a ball went right between his arms and was intercepted. I suspect he is letting his personal feelings toward Brees affect his effort. I believe Jimmy is the best pass catcher in the NFL and quite possibly a league MVP, but his effort is often piss poor. He still can't block and he avoids contact like he's Lance Moore. Everyone else on the team fights for every possible yard. Jimmy will be one on one with a corner and step out of bounds. I think this teams problems are in the locker room. If they don't come together as a team, they'll continue to get out hustled and outplayed. Just looked at the stats. Graham is 5th in total yards (among all receivers) Tied for first in 1st downs (among all receivers) Is averaging a touchdown per game He has a 78% catch percentage And is tied with Gronk for 10th out of 56 tight ends in run blocking. 2014 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN https://www.profootballfocus.com/dat...=25&numgames=1 That'll show Brees.

09-15-2014, 03:34 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Offense Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Just looked at the stats. Graham is 5th in total yards (among all receivers) Tied for first in 1st downs (among all receivers) Is averaging a touchdown per game He has a 78% catch percentage And is tied with Gronk for 10th out of 56 tight ends in run blocking. 2014 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN https://www.profootballfocus.com/dat...=25&numgames=1 That'll show Brees. What personal feelings?
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09-15-2014, 05:32 PM	#4
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Offense Originally Posted by The Dude What personal feelings? Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

09-15-2014, 05:36 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder. i do not know about all of that but next year when Drew can redo his contract Jimmy should feel better. if he does not then Jimmy will have plenty of company.

09-15-2014, 06:19 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder. Where did you hear Jimmy was furious? I never heard that.

09-15-2014, 06:22 PM	#7
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder. Jimmy's playing some of the best ball of his career. 78% completions would indicate that not only his he not ignoring any passes but he's catching more than he ever has.

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