VegasSaint9

If we lose two close games on the road its not a huge deal i dont expect to do better than 4-4 on the road. Yeah sure, its Cleveland, but the past 3-4 years we lose to inferior teams on the road its not very new. If we lose two straight at home...then i would worry. Yeah the defense doesnt look very stout and the fashion in which we have lost is a bit surprising. I think we see more Corey White over P-Rob this week (hopefully). I'd rather have trouble now and be good in November/December. Last year we were good early, but bad later on in the year and defenses could read us blindfolded and we were way too predictable against Carolina and Seattle. (screen to sproles, pass to jimmy). I think we go maybe 7-1 at home (SF, Bengals, Packers, Ravens) and lose two more on the road at either Carolina, Pitt, or Chicago. So we finish 11-5 again. We do have the capacity to go 13-3. A home game should give the confidence back to the team. I still believe in this team, whodat!

WHODATINCA

My comment was not to defend the D. Obviously, the D sucked the last two game. But, it wasn't the only problem. My comment was about the O-Line. This article and the comments below -- and specifically the quoted -- express my sentiments well.

New Orleans Saints' defense lacks fundamentals, offense struggles early vs. Browns' pressure: Film Study | NOLA.com

"Only five of Brees' throws have been for 20-plus yards. This is not by design. Against Cleveland, New Orleans had trouble getting the vertical routes to develop because of pressure. The Browns' game plan, just like the Falcons' a week before, was to eliminate the Saints' vertical passing game -- sometimes by even playing seven defensive backs.

This is why the Saints ran a lot of "21" personnel (two backs, one tight end) using fullback Austin Johnson more for lead runs against the Browns' soft looks. Establishing the run is something Sean Payton wants to do, but preferably after gaining the lead through explosive vertical plays.

Because the vertical element has been limited, the Saints have turned to their running attack more to set up the pass rather than the other way around.

Going forward, the Saints need to get their protections settled to hold up better in Brees' five- and seven-step dropbacks and challenge their receivers to do a better job of working their way open. For most of the game, the Browns did an outstanding job with four-man pressure in front of tight, short coverage. They also did a nice job of contesting throws downfield and were well-positioned. The Browns deserve a lot of credit for their play and effort."

Shutdown defense in 2017 = Championship!