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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Here is a little reality check for all fans. Offensive Line Drew Brees - Protection Armstead 1 Ht, 1 Hu Grubbs 2 Hu Evans 1 Hu Strief 1 Ht, 1 Hu Watson 1 Sk, 1 Hu Run Blocking Watson and ...

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Old 09-15-2014, 07:34 AM   #1
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Week 2 NO/Cle grades (reality check)

Here is a little reality check for all fans.

Offensive
Line
Drew Brees - Protection
Armstead 1 Ht, 1 Hu
Grubbs 2 Hu
Evans 1 Hu
Strief 1 Ht, 1 Hu
Watson 1 Sk, 1 Hu

Run Blocking
Watson and Grubs both had a bad day over all

Receiving
Jimmy Graham Great and bad
13 targets / 10 catches/ 118 yards/ 2 TDs
*Note - Some of you need to realize the circumstances surrounding some items. Jimmy Graham had 0 Dropped passes but is credited with allowing 1 Interception. Blame Drew all you want, PFF recognizes that the ball went right through Grahams hands, then caught by Gipson. Just like Cooks is credited with the bobbled pass that was intercepted by Alford.

A total of 1 dropped pass all game is a vast improvement over last week.

Drew Brees - Went 27/36 for 237 yards and 2 TDs

Rushing
Ingram had a stellar game - 11 for 83 (7.5 YPC) 1 TD

Our ground game is solid - 27 for 174 (6.4YPC) 1 TD (Should be more rushing TDs)

Defensive
I will get the good out of the way because there is so little
Only 4 Missed Tackles this game. Monumental leap.

Junior Gallett - 1 Sk, 1 Qb Hit
Cam Jordan - 1 QB Ht, 4 QB Hu, 2 Batted Passes
Corey White - Lead team in Solo Tackles with 8 (Vaccaro, Lofton, Hicks had 6 a piece)

The bad:
Jenkins - -2.0 run stop
Robinson - 2 penalties, 5 receptions, 38 yards 1 TD
Lewis - 5 Rec 64 yards
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My comments:
On Robinson
- Yes everyone played bad, he is the only one that falls into the 'thats the norm' catagory, everyone else has earned some sort of pass on a bad play or even a string of bad plays. Robin is not only stringing bad plays but bad games and bad seasons together. It is cumulative.
- For me it isn't his play. When Lewis gives up a reception I dont get the feeling he is completely lost. White doesn't look like he is chasing bubbles.

There is no more defense of Robinson. Robinson has looked the same under Williams, as he did Spagnuolo, as he is now under Ryan. There was a brief moment when he cut his dreads that he looked ok but that was a handful of games and is not enough to offset seasons. If the best retort you can muster to defend Patrick Robinson is to briefly go into how everyone else is playing you may want to rethink your strategy. Defensive backfields like offensive lines require some synchronization and they cover for each other at a time of need. With good conscience and no doubt I will say that Patrick Robinson is causing some of the problems for the other players, they are trying to compensate and that is putting them out of position as well.

On Graham
Jimmy is catching, and breaking tackles. He is doing all of the things people have beat on him about and for that I am very happy. He is a very important piece of our offense.

I did notice one thing yesterday... On one of his TDs in the endzone he reached up with both hands and he has stone hands some times. Meaning if you watch closely his catches look like basketball shots that beat the rim a few times before they go in. For me that was a concern but I dismissed it because he caught it... Later a ball goes right through his hands and is INT.


Finally... Let some things go so you don't look foolish.
1. Ingram is running well whether you like it or not. He also isnt going to get 72 carries a game so let that go as well.

2. Drew has yet to throw any of his stupid right to a defender interceptions this season. He is being credited with 2 but at best if you are honest he has two 1/2s equaling 1.

3. Most teams take a few weeks into the season to pull their act together. The panicking and 8-8 comments look really foolish. Seattle lost to San Diego, Atlanta lost to Cincinnati, Tampa Bay lost to St Louis, San Francisco lost to Chicago... If you are a fantasy owner you fully understand how the first 2-3 weeks is no indication of the rest of the season.

We are 0-2 and have played absolutely inconsistent and sh1tty ball. That said, they are both away games and the grand total of our losses is by 5 points and we are averaging 29 points/game.

If you are looking at our offense don't look too hard, at the end of the day defense doesn't win championships, and neither does running or passing. What wins is scoring more than you allow and one of these two squads is preforming historically bad. That is where I would point my finger. I have identified better seasons.
Ave/Points per game Scored
2014 - 29
2013 - 25.9
2012 - 28.8
2011 - 34.2
2010 - 24
2009 - 31.9

Ave/points per game allowed
2014 - 31.5
2013 - 19
2012 - 28.4
2011 - 21.2
2010 - 19.2
2009 - 21.3

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