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Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 612664)

ok read what you post. "yes our offense could have done better at the END of the game", answer me this when do you win/lose games? um at the END of the game. with 7 mins left in the game we have the ball with a one point lead. if you RUN SOME CLOCK OUT AND SCORE ( a final t.d.) you make the opposing team one dimensional meaning our defense knew you have to what, throw the ball, score a t.d. with a two point conversion and what are the odds of that happening?, very slim. once again if you have an opportunity to win the game on offense do so. TODAY'S DEFENSE IS NOT DESIGN TO WIN GAMES, all the browns had to do is get in field position to kick a long fg. to beat us by what 2 points however, if you score a t.d. the odds would have been in our favor.

No need to go all " Captain CAPS LOCK" on everyone

Like I said earlier, 2 weeks in a row our defense has had the opposing offense pinned inside their own 10 yard line and 2 weeks in a row they have drove the length of the field for a score

We shouldn't have to score 30 points a game to win every week, our defense should be able to hold teams under 20 points - especially a team that is missing their 3 best offensive players.

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

Over the last decade I've seen some pretty bizarre debates, yet I can't think of a single one more absurd than claiming our offense is just as much to blame as our defense for our 0-2 record right now.

Maybe the one about the Punter being THE most important player on on a defense, but other than that I'm just at a loss to remember one as absurd as this.

I have to wonder if some of you guys are just jerking the chains.

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 612673)

i'm sorry who dats maybe i'm a different fan. its not about how many points you score necessarily its about controlling the clock. when you control the clock you can score 17 points and win games if you're eating clock up. that's my argument. we had a chance to eat up clock and score to put the game out of reach. if we would have scored we wouldnt be having this debate today trust me. we were up 1 point i repeat one point all they had to do is get into field position to kick a fg to beat us vs scoring a t.d. to do so. there is a difference. do you all not see this? f.g vs t.d's hum which one would i take if i'm the opposing team? if it was us in that position to either score a fg or having to score a t.d. plus a two point conversion which one would you take?

If our defense wouldn't give up 500 yards per game we wouldn't be having this discussion because we'd be 2-0.
Your point makes no sense.

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

Offense? Sorry...ain't and will not buy that. You look at execution on the D side, and you see out-of-position personnel, bad angles, very little D-line pressure, slow MLB'ers, and forcing turnovers being as rare as non-alcoholic moonshine.

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

Courtesy of coldhardfootballfacts.com (I'm paraphrasing here): From 2008 to the 2013 halfway point, teams with +1 or higher turnover ratio were 882-237. I'm bettin' you could like go all the back to 1950 and it'd be about the same. It's still about 75% odds you win a football game if you force more than you give away in a game. With our offense, that makes the difference between close games lost or won in the last minutes and us delivering a resounding beat-down. This concludes my seminar on winning in the NFL...please exit the classroom without any obscene gestures.

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

"Two weeks in, the numbers for Ryan's unit don't lie.
His defense, for now, stinks."

After reading this article I feel less confident then ever. It appears are defense is in total disarray. Something is just not right with Rob Ryan and his approach this year. What is going on?????

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

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Originally Posted by stilldat318 (Post 612638)

Thats cause we had Champ at CB that's wht happened

Champ barely played, he had nothing and I mean absolutely nothing to do with how the team looked. Wow

Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

Those numbers are the results. That explains nothing.

The reason why we suck is because the defensive unit is not organized or communicating.