After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks

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When scanning the defensive rankings for the New Orleans Saints, one will see a lot of numbers in the high 20s and low 30s, which is numerical code for this:

The Saints defense has been one of the league's major flops after two weeks.

New Orleans came into 2014 as a Super Bowl pick by many, and not just because of Drew Brees and the offense. This was to be the year that the Saints took their defense to a higher level, perhaps becoming one of the best units in the league.

So far, it's been anything but.

Here are the Saints rankings

30th in total defense
32nd against the pass
29th in yards per play
29th in sacks per pass play
27th in third-down efficiency
31st in points per game.

After Further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks - CBSSports.com

AlaskaSaints · 09-20-2014, 03:08 AM

Like I always say... SHOW ME.

I don't 'buy', sight-unseen.

halloween 65 · 09-20-2014, 06:03 AM

The D has to get it going. During pre-season they looked great, what has happened to them. The article is dead on about our lb.'s being slow, they are.

dizzle88 · 09-20-2014, 06:11 AM

Even when we do get pressure of the QB we still allow him to escape the pocket, the D line is not working together

Akiem hicks needs to get a bigger push upfront so the QB cannot step up or escape through the line, that in turn will let junior and Cam get to him from the outside.

Danno · 09-20-2014, 09:17 AM

30th in total defense
32nd against the pass
29th in yards per play
29th in sacks per pass play
27th in third-down efficiency
31st in points per game.

Obviously our Offense is the problem here.

Euphoria · 09-20-2014, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Obviously our Offense is the problem here.

LMAO

Danno · 09-20-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

statiscally our defense is horrible, but dont be fooled or deceived by the numbers. look who dats if you keep your defense on the field as much as our offense you're gonna get scored on. in our first 2 games the saints defense gave up BIG PLAYS that has a factor in those numbers. we still should have won the game if our offense didnt turn the ball over in the redzone and the pick 6. what is killing our defense is penalties. i had a conversation with a colleague of mines during the preseason and i told him that was my concern going into the regular season. i also said the one game i saw drew play he didnt look sharp. some of his passes were sailing on him and he wasnt that accurate but everyone shunned it off as "oh he's just rusty for not playing in the first 2 preseason games". i feel its just as much the offense as it is the defense.

Drew is ranked 5th in the NFL.
He ranks 6th in YPG
He ranks 7th in completion %

We rank 14th best in Time of Possession
We rank #3 in Total Offense
We rank #3 in Points Per Game

I just don't understand how anyone can say they're equal in blame.

dizzle88 · 09-20-2014, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

statiscally our defense is horrible, but dont be fooled or deceived by the numbers. look who dats if you keep your defense on the field as much as our offense you're gonna get scored on. in our first 2 games the saints defense gave up BIG PLAYS that has a factor in those numbers. we still should have won the game if our offense didnt turn the ball over in the redzone and the pick 6. what is killing our defense is penalties. i had a conversation with a colleague of mines during the preseason and i told him that was my concern going into the regular season. i also said the one game i saw drew play he didnt look sharp. some of his passes were sailing on him and he wasnt that accurate but everyone shunned it off as "oh he's just rusty for not playing in the first 2 preseason games". i feel its just as much the offense as it is the defense.

Offense rankings 2014

Points per game - 3rd best
Total yards - 3rd best
Pass yards - 278.0 per game - 6th best
Rushing yards - 156.5 per game - 5th best
3rd down conversions - 57.69% - Tops in the league

Yes our offense could have done better at the end of the browns game when we needed a field goal, but when you have an offense that scores 30 points per game, nearly 60% of the time converts third downs, its the defense that is losing you games

dizzle88 · 09-20-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

ok read what you post. "yes our offense could have done better at the END of the game", answer me this when do you win/lose games? um at the END of the game. with 7 mins left in the game we have the ball with a one point lead. if you RUN SOME CLOCK OUT AND SCORE ( a final t.d.) you make the opposing team one dimensional meaning our defense knew you have to what, throw the ball, score a t.d. with a two point conversion and what are the odds of that happening?, very slim. once again if you have an opportunity to win the game on offense do so. TODAY'S DEFENSE IS NOT DESIGN TO WIN GAMES, all the browns had to do is get in field position to kick a long fg. to beat us by what 2 points however, if you score a t.d. the odds would have been in our favor.

No need to go all " Captain CAPS LOCK" on everyone

Like I said earlier, 2 weeks in a row our defense has had the opposing offense pinned inside their own 10 yard line and 2 weeks in a row they have drove the length of the field for a score

We shouldn't have to score 30 points a game to win every week, our defense should be able to hold teams under 20 points - especially a team that is missing their 3 best offensive players.

Danno · 09-20-2014, 02:37 PM

Over the last decade I've seen some pretty bizarre debates, yet I can't think of a single one more absurd than claiming our offense is just as much to blame as our defense for our 0-2 record right now.

Maybe the one about the Punter being THE most important player on on a defense, but other than that I'm just at a loss to remember one as absurd as this.

I have to wonder if some of you guys are just jerking the chains.

09-19-2014, 11:50 PM	#1
Threaded by QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985 Rating: (0 votes - average) When scanning the defensive rankings for the New Orleans Saints, one will see a lot of numbers in the high 20s and low 30s, which is numerical code for this: The Saints defense has been one of the league's major flops after two weeks. New Orleans came into 2014 as a Super Bowl pick by many, and not just because of Drew Brees and the offense. This was to be the year that the Saints took their defense to a higher level, perhaps becoming one of the best units in the league. So far, it's been anything but. Here are the Saints rankings 30th in total defense 32nd against the pass 29th in yards per play 29th in sacks per pass play 27th in third-down efficiency 31st in points per game. After Further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks - CBSSports.com Attached Thumbnails Last edited by QBREES9; 09-19-2014 at 11:54 PM..
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09-20-2014, 03:08 AM	#2
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Like I always say... SHOW ME. I don't 'buy', sight-unseen. hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2014, 06:11 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Even when we do get pressure of the QB we still allow him to escape the pocket, the D line is not working together Akiem hicks needs to get a bigger push upfront so the QB cannot step up or escape through the line, that in turn will let junior and Cam get to him from the outside. hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2014, 09:17 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks 30th in total defense 32nd against the pass 29th in yards per play 29th in sacks per pass play 27th in third-down efficiency 31st in points per game. Obviously our Offense is the problem here. Halo and dizzle88 like this.

09-20-2014, 09:29 AM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Originally Posted by Danno Obviously our Offense is the problem here. LMAO Halo and ScottF like this.

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09-20-2014, 06:03 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks The D has to get it going. During pre-season they looked great, what has happened to them. The article is dead on about our lb.'s being slow, they are.

09-20-2014, 10:36 AM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Originally Posted by teddybarexxx statiscally our defense is horrible, but dont be fooled or deceived by the numbers. look who dats if you keep your defense on the field as much as our offense you're gonna get scored on. in our first 2 games the saints defense gave up BIG PLAYS that has a factor in those numbers. we still should have won the game if our offense didnt turn the ball over in the redzone and the pick 6. what is killing our defense is penalties. i had a conversation with a colleague of mines during the preseason and i told him that was my concern going into the regular season. i also said the one game i saw drew play he didnt look sharp. some of his passes were sailing on him and he wasnt that accurate but everyone shunned it off as "oh he's just rusty for not playing in the first 2 preseason games". i feel its just as much the offense as it is the defense. Drew is ranked 5th in the NFL. He ranks 6th in YPG He ranks 7th in completion % We rank 14th best in Time of Possession We rank #3 in Total Offense We rank #3 in Points Per Game I just don't understand how anyone can say they're equal in blame. spkb25, saintsfan403 and Mr.Riaton like this.

09-20-2014, 10:44 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Originally Posted by teddybarexxx statiscally our defense is horrible, but dont be fooled or deceived by the numbers. look who dats if you keep your defense on the field as much as our offense you're gonna get scored on. in our first 2 games the saints defense gave up BIG PLAYS that has a factor in those numbers. we still should have won the game if our offense didnt turn the ball over in the redzone and the pick 6. what is killing our defense is penalties. i had a conversation with a colleague of mines during the preseason and i told him that was my concern going into the regular season. i also said the one game i saw drew play he didnt look sharp. some of his passes were sailing on him and he wasnt that accurate but everyone shunned it off as "oh he's just rusty for not playing in the first 2 preseason games". i feel its just as much the offense as it is the defense. Offense rankings 2014 Points per game - 3rd best Total yards - 3rd best Pass yards - 278.0 per game - 6th best Rushing yards - 156.5 per game - 5th best 3rd down conversions - 57.69% - Tops in the league Yes our offense could have done better at the end of the browns game when we needed a field goal, but when you have an offense that scores 30 points per game, nearly 60% of the time converts third downs, its the defense that is losing you games Danno and Mr.Riaton like this.

09-20-2014, 01:42 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Originally Posted by teddybarexxx ok read what you post. "yes our offense could have done better at the END of the game", answer me this when do you win/lose games? um at the END of the game. with 7 mins left in the game we have the ball with a one point lead. if you RUN SOME CLOCK OUT AND SCORE ( a final t.d.) you make the opposing team one dimensional meaning our defense knew you have to what, throw the ball, score a t.d. with a two point conversion and what are the odds of that happening?, very slim. once again if you have an opportunity to win the game on offense do so. TODAY'S DEFENSE IS NOT DESIGN TO WIN GAMES, all the browns had to do is get in field position to kick a long fg. to beat us by what 2 points however, if you score a t.d. the odds would have been in our favor. No need to go all " Captain CAPS LOCK" on everyone Like I said earlier, 2 weeks in a row our defense has had the opposing offense pinned inside their own 10 yard line and 2 weeks in a row they have drove the length of the field for a score We shouldn't have to score 30 points a game to win every week, our defense should be able to hold teams under 20 points - especially a team that is missing their 3 best offensive players. Danno, \|Mitch\|, saintsfan403 and 1 others like this.

09-20-2014, 02:37 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: After further Review: Examining why the Saints defense stinks Over the last decade I've seen some pretty bizarre debates, yet I can't think of a single one more absurd than claiming our offense is just as much to blame as our defense for our 0-2 record right now. Maybe the one about the Punter being THE most important player on on a defense, but other than that I'm just at a loss to remember one as absurd as this. I have to wonder if some of you guys are just jerking the chains. iceshack149 likes this.

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