Vick and Crumpler will Start

GumboBC · 12-21-2004, 10:22 AM

Translation: Michael Vick will start at quarterback and Alge Crumpler at tight end, even though the Falcons have little to gain after securing a first-round bye in the playoffs.

"We have an obligation to try and win every game we play," Mora said Monday. "We're professionals. We're paid to do that, and so that's what we're going to do."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Saints4Life · 12-21-2004, 10:26 AM

vick wont start, they have nothing to lose by losing. THey are going to sit him out for the playoffs so he can be ready for them

[Edited on 21/12/2004 by Saints4Life]

spkb25 · 12-21-2004, 11:06 AM

EVEN IF THEY START THEESE GUYS I CANT SEE THEM PLAYING LONGER THEN THE FIRST QUARTER IF THAT LONG. could you imagine vick gets cracked in the first quarter and they loose him for the playoffs. fans would want moras head

GumboBC · 12-21-2004, 11:17 AM

Hey guys, I know ya\'ll don\'t want Vick or Crumpler to play. But, I\'d prepare to see both of them play the entire game. Some coaches don\'t like to sit their starters regardless of the circumstances.

If we can put a few good hits on Vick, I think that would increase the odds of Mora pulling Vick. I hope they both play. If it\'s meant for us to go to the playoffs .... We\'ll beat whoever we have to.

Peace..

o1higuy · 12-21-2004, 12:09 PM

I just heard about five minutes ago on ESPN radio here in Austin that Vick will more than likely sit out. Not sure about Crumpler. I know it was preseason but Shaub looked pretty damn good himself. Who knows. The bottom line is attitude. Maybe we have a littel confidense now. We have to get geared up no matter who starts.

dberce1 · 12-21-2004, 12:20 PM

Just found this online. It was only a small snippet, so there\'s no reason to post the link, it\'s all here:

Atlanta\'s Michael Vick and tight end Alge Crumpler are nursing ailments and are not likely to play Sunday at New Orleans. \"Mike\'s fine,\" coach Jim Mora said. \"His shoulder is sore, but nothing is structurally wrong.\" Crumpler sprained his right knee in the game. The Falcons (11-3) are locked into the NFC\'s No. 2 playoff spot. Rookie quarterback Matt Schaub will start his first NFL game.
-- Atlanta Journal Constitution

jonnyrotten · 12-21-2004, 12:24 PM

espn.com says likely not to start

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=1950713

WhoDat · 12-21-2004, 03:31 PM

Don\'t you guys want him to start? Don\'t you guys want to beat the best to get in, or are you all happy sliding in backwards at 8-8 against less than the best?

That\'s a rhetorical question b/c it\'s obvious that most people on this board want to get there no matter what. What happened to all that big talk from the preseason - people saying that Haslett should get fired and they would rather miss the playoffs if the Saints were going to back in at 9-7 and the last wildcard spot?

themightyduck · 12-21-2004, 07:18 PM

What happened to all that big talk from the preseason - people saying that Haslett should get fired and they would rather miss the playoffs if the Saints were going to back in at 9-7 and the last wildcard spot?

I\'d love to see Haslett and co. leave after this season. I\'m angry that we\'ve won 2 straight because it will make it that much harder for Benson to make the drastic changes to the organization that we\'ve been praying for.

IMO, should we win out and make the playoffs, Haslett, Loomis, and possibly McCarthy will stay. I do believe that Benson will do the right thing and fire Venturi, but I wouldn\'t bank on it just yet...

If we lose the last two like we did against Denver and Carolina, expect more drastic changes. I would expect Venturi and McCarthy to be gone, Loomis (minutely possible), and I\'ll go out on a limb and say O-line coach Jack Henry (I know that the line has had a few bad injuries, namely Holland and Gandy, but that\'s still no excuse for the endless false start penalties, fumbled snaps, and poor pass protection). Henry deserves the blame for their poor play.

As for Vick and Crumpler, I would bet that Jim Mora would put them in, but he won\'t overwork him. I\'d expect to see a lot more running plays and fewer opportunities for Vick and Crumpler to make any significant contribution.

[Edited on 12/22/2004 by themightyduck]

mutineer10 · 12-21-2004, 08:08 PM

Don\'t you guys want him to start? Don\'t you guys want to beat the best to get in, or are you all happy sliding in backwards at 8-8 against less than the best?

That\'s a rhetorical question b/c it\'s obvious that most people on this board want to get there no matter what.

You got it, WhoDat - I\'m unabashed about my willingness to slime our way in however we can do it. At least I\'ll admit it! I\'m a Saints fan ... I\'m desperate, dammit!

I kinda think Vick and Crumpler\'s playing time will be in direct proportion to how well the Saints manage to come out and play. If we\'re hanging in there, we\'ll probably see a little more Vick and Crumpler. If - per our history - we decide to implode after two solid showings, Shaub probably keeps the reins.

I don\'t, however, expect the buzzards to roll over and hand it to us. Mora\'s still got \"coach of the year\" to think about!

12-21-2004, 10:22 AM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Vick and Crumpler will Start Translation: Michael Vick will start at quarterback and Alge Crumpler at tight end, even though the Falcons have little to gain after securing a first-round bye in the playoffs. "We have an obligation to try and win every game we play," Mora said Monday. "We're professionals. We're paid to do that, and so that's what we're going to do." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
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12-21-2004, 10:26 AM	#2
Saints4Life Registered Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 31	Vick and Crumpler will Start vick wont start, they have nothing to lose by losing. THey are going to sit him out for the playoffs so he can be ready for them [Edited on 21/12/2004 by Saints4Life]
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12-21-2004, 11:06 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Vick and Crumpler will Start EVEN IF THEY START THEESE GUYS I CANT SEE THEM PLAYING LONGER THEN THE FIRST QUARTER IF THAT LONG. could you imagine vick gets cracked in the first quarter and they loose him for the playoffs. fans would want moras head

12-21-2004, 11:17 AM	#4
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Vick and Crumpler will Start Hey guys, I know ya\'ll don\'t want Vick or Crumpler to play. But, I\'d prepare to see both of them play the entire game. Some coaches don\'t like to sit their starters regardless of the circumstances. If we can put a few good hits on Vick, I think that would increase the odds of Mora pulling Vick. I hope they both play. If it\'s meant for us to go to the playoffs .... We\'ll beat whoever we have to. Peace..
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12-21-2004, 12:09 PM	#5
o1higuy 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 189	Vick and Crumpler will Start I just heard about five minutes ago on ESPN radio here in Austin that Vick will more than likely sit out. Not sure about Crumpler. I know it was preseason but Shaub looked pretty damn good himself. Who knows. The bottom line is attitude. Maybe we have a littel confidense now. We have to get geared up no matter who starts.
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dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	Vick and Crumpler will Start Just found this online. It was only a small snippet, so there\'s no reason to post the link, it\'s all here: Atlanta\'s Michael Vick and tight end Alge Crumpler are nursing ailments and are not likely to play Sunday at New Orleans. \"Mike\'s fine,\" coach Jim Mora said. \"His shoulder is sore, but nothing is structurally wrong.\" Crumpler sprained his right knee in the game. The Falcons (11-3) are locked into the NFC\'s No. 2 playoff spot. Rookie quarterback Matt Schaub will start his first NFL game. -- Atlanta Journal Constitution

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jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Vick and Crumpler will Start espn.com says likely not to start http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=1950713

12-21-2004, 03:31 PM	#8
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Vick and Crumpler will Start Don\'t you guys want him to start? Don\'t you guys want to beat the best to get in, or are you all happy sliding in backwards at 8-8 against less than the best? That\'s a rhetorical question b/c it\'s obvious that most people on this board want to get there no matter what. What happened to all that big talk from the preseason - people saying that Haslett should get fired and they would rather miss the playoffs if the Saints were going to back in at 9-7 and the last wildcard spot?
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12-21-2004, 07:18 PM	#9
themightyduck 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 219	Vick and Crumpler will Start What happened to all that big talk from the preseason - people saying that Haslett should get fired and they would rather miss the playoffs if the Saints were going to back in at 9-7 and the last wildcard spot? I\'d love to see Haslett and co. leave after this season. I\'m angry that we\'ve won 2 straight because it will make it that much harder for Benson to make the drastic changes to the organization that we\'ve been praying for. IMO, should we win out and make the playoffs, Haslett, Loomis, and possibly McCarthy will stay. I do believe that Benson will do the right thing and fire Venturi, but I wouldn\'t bank on it just yet... If we lose the last two like we did against Denver and Carolina, expect more drastic changes. I would expect Venturi and McCarthy to be gone, Loomis (minutely possible), and I\'ll go out on a limb and say O-line coach Jack Henry (I know that the line has had a few bad injuries, namely Holland and Gandy, but that\'s still no excuse for the endless false start penalties, fumbled snaps, and poor pass protection). Henry deserves the blame for their poor play. As for Vick and Crumpler, I would bet that Jim Mora would put them in, but he won\'t overwork him. I\'d expect to see a lot more running plays and fewer opportunities for Vick and Crumpler to make any significant contribution. [Edited on 12/22/2004 by themightyduck]
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12-21-2004, 08:08 PM	#10
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Vick and Crumpler will Start Don\'t you guys want him to start? Don\'t you guys want to beat the best to get in, or are you all happy sliding in backwards at 8-8 against less than the best? That\'s a rhetorical question b/c it\'s obvious that most people on this board want to get there no matter what. You got it, WhoDat - I\'m unabashed about my willingness to slime our way in however we can do it. At least I\'ll admit it! I\'m a Saints fan ... I\'m desperate, dammit! I kinda think Vick and Crumpler\'s playing time will be in direct proportion to how well the Saints manage to come out and play. If we\'re hanging in there, we\'ll probably see a little more Vick and Crumpler. If - per our history - we decide to implode after two solid showings, Shaub probably keeps the reins. I don\'t, however, expect the buzzards to roll over and hand it to us. Mora\'s still got \"coach of the year\" to think about!