This team just aint worth watching.

brees84 · 09-29-2014, 09:52 AM

Euphoria · 09-29-2014, 10:01 AM

Well I kept laughing at everyone who claims we have all this talent... I didn't see it.

Offense we have talent and key role players but take them out of the system most of them are no bodies.

Defense - there are no bodies. We keep patching wholes with no bodies and they over achieved so far and not they are exactly what they are - no bodies.

dizzle88 · 09-29-2014, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

I'm glad your convinced because I'm not confident we'll win more than 5 or 6 games this season

I would never abandon the team, but I'm not prepared to book days off work and stay up until 5am to watch our players give that pathetic performance

If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday

K Major · 09-29-2014, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

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If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday

Diz, I hear you. I just don't see any passion right now. The body language is bad and no one seems pi$#ed off on the sidelines.

Remember when Roll Tide (Ingram) had the so called "outburst" when he wasn't on the same page with an OLineman a few weeks back & some made big deal out of it? We need guys to start jaw jacking, HUSTLING, communicating and acting like they care. The passion & desire to be great on every play is missing thus far. Those fools on the Dallas bench were laughing at us in the 3rd quarter.

We can right the ship, however the sense of urgency has to start immediately.

Euphoria · 09-29-2014, 10:54 AM

Our D was being hyped as being this new innovated revamped Seattle type D with the Safeties and all but WHERE THE HECK IS IT???

They really need to deploy that scheme to help out the DB's.

blackangold · 09-29-2014, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things.

1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well.

2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling?

Danno · 09-29-2014, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things.

1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well.

2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling?

ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more.

blackangold · 09-29-2014, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more.

I love that idea... but I don't see Payotn doing it. He seems to have become bland in the last few years. The league as adapted and passed him by but he is still calling plays from 06 like it's never been done before...

Papa Voodoo · 09-29-2014, 11:04 AM

I guess the good news is that almost everyone else sucks too.

CharityMike · 09-29-2014, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

I agree the grass cutting bit is extreme. I understand it though. People vent and jump off the deep end a little to quick. But you know im here to stay regardless. We have been on this board for quite some time now. I have learned over the years, not to post immediate feelings especially after a loss.

I have to agree with a bunch on here about how our team looks. We look defeated from the top down. I agree with the statement that we may becoming stale. I dont see much creativity with the offensive play calling and it becomes the most apparent on the road.

The defense....man, I dont know wts is going on. The front seven is just playing really bad and it all starts with them. No pressure results in our db's looking really bad.

I dont know the answer to how things are going to change. Its mind numbing on how opposite of last year they are on the front line. Nothing that has been shown in 4 games can be pointed to that makes one think we are improving. I hope we can find a way and I will be here regardless but im not very optimistic to how good we are going to be this year. Im hoping for a turn around but the realist in me knows the way this team is playing, we are not going to far.

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09-29-2014, 10:01 AM	#112
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Well I kept laughing at everyone who claims we have all this talent... I didn't see it. Offense we have talent and key role players but take them out of the system most of them are no bodies. Defense - there are no bodies. We keep patching wholes with no bodies and they over achieved so far and not they are exactly what they are - no bodies.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. I'm glad your convinced because I'm not confident we'll win more than 5 or 6 games this season I would never abandon the team, but I'm not prepared to book days off work and stay up until 5am to watch our players give that pathetic performance If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday

09-29-2014, 10:20 AM	#114
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by dizzle88 I If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday Diz, I hear you. I just don't see any passion right now. The body language is bad and no one seems pi$#ed off on the sidelines. Remember when Roll Tide (Ingram) had the so called "outburst" when he wasn't on the same page with an OLineman a few weeks back & some made big deal out of it? We need guys to start jaw jacking, HUSTLING, communicating and acting like they care. The passion & desire to be great on every play is missing thus far. Those fools on the Dallas bench were laughing at us in the 3rd quarter. We can right the ship, however the sense of urgency has to start immediately. dizzle88 likes this.
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09-29-2014, 10:55 AM	#116
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things. 1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well. 2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling? AlaskaSaints and brees84 like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by blackangold I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things. 1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well. 2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling? ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more. CharityMike likes this.

09-29-2014, 11:03 AM	#118
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more. I love that idea... but I don't see Payotn doing it. He seems to have become bland in the last few years. The league as adapted and passed him by but he is still calling plays from 06 like it's never been done before...

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. I guess the good news is that almost everyone else sucks too.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. I agree the grass cutting bit is extreme. I understand it though. People vent and jump off the deep end a little to quick. But you know im here to stay regardless. We have been on this board for quite some time now. I have learned over the years, not to post immediate feelings especially after a loss. I have to agree with a bunch on here about how our team looks. We look defeated from the top down. I agree with the statement that we may becoming stale. I dont see much creativity with the offensive play calling and it becomes the most apparent on the road. The defense....man, I dont know wts is going on. The front seven is just playing really bad and it all starts with them. No pressure results in our db's looking really bad. I dont know the answer to how things are going to change. Its mind numbing on how opposite of last year they are on the front line. Nothing that has been shown in 4 games can be pointed to that makes one think we are improving. I hope we can find a way and I will be here regardless but im not very optimistic to how good we are going to be this year. Im hoping for a turn around but the realist in me knows the way this team is playing, we are not going to far.

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