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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 614893)

I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things.

1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well.

2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling?

ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 614894)

I love that idea... but I don't see Payotn doing it. He seems to have become bland in the last few years. The league as adapted and passed him by but he is still calling plays from 06 like it's never been done before...

Re: THis team just aint worth watching.

I guess the good news is that almost everyone else sucks too.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 614864)

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

I agree the grass cutting bit is extreme. I understand it though. People vent and jump off the deep end a little to quick. But you know im here to stay regardless. We have been on this board for quite some time now. I have learned over the years, not to post immediate feelings especially after a loss.

I have to agree with a bunch on here about how our team looks. We look defeated from the top down. I agree with the statement that we may becoming stale. I dont see much creativity with the offensive play calling and it becomes the most apparent on the road.

The defense....man, I dont know wts is going on. The front seven is just playing really bad and it all starts with them. No pressure results in our db's looking really bad.

I dont know the answer to how things are going to change. Its mind numbing on how opposite of last year they are on the front line. Nothing that has been shown in 4 games can be pointed to that makes one think we are improving. I hope we can find a way and I will be here regardless but im not very optimistic to how good we are going to be this year. Im hoping for a turn around but the realist in me knows the way this team is playing, we are not going to far.

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I don't have a issue with people venting during and in the aftermath of bad performances. Surely thats why we are here, to discuss a game with like minded people. All of us are on edge during the game and if venting frustrations helps then its all good. I generally vent often on sites and then post again later when I have calmed down.

Re: THis team just aint worth watching.

We still have a Linebacker Coach who started Scott Shanle.

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 614687)

The fans always suck Danno, you know better.

Feels like reading the failclowns board.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 614938)

We still have a Linebacker Coach who started Scott Shanle.

Oh my god that is the answer. Im dead serious you are exactly right. I think of Shanle and then realize he is not on this defense and it makes me feel a little better. Dude is the only saint ever that I hate. He is like only three spots away from Roger gotohell. If we only win two more games and Roger died or at least got fired it would almost be worth it

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Re: THis team just aint worth watching.

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 615135)

That's abit harsh, at least Scott shanle actually tried, which is more than you can say for most of the players on the defense this year.

Plus shanle came to us in 2006 when a lot of free agents weren't jumping at the chance to sign with us, he may not have been a great player near the end but to hate a player that played a big role in getting our super bowl is harsh

Only player I can say I hate from that 2009 team is Darren Sharper because he is a convicted rapist