WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!

jnormand · 09-29-2014, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

This team is the worst team we have fielded since Payton came in. Horrible. Try something, anything. Give play calling duties to Carmichael, fire Ryan, I don't care but do something. Our defense is a joke and our offense is just not right.

Have you noticed Colston? He's playing like he's bored. Wait....everyone is playing like they're bored. It's like they all just expect to win. Its weird.

SloMotion · 09-29-2014, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

We are only one game out of our bottom dwellers division, we are just pacing ourselves, lol.

We just don't have it yet this year in almost every way, but there is a long way to go and I'm not sold on any NFC team yet. There is still hope!!!

That's what I was focusing on, no one in the Division is really walking away with it ... yet ... and there's still time to right the ship. Couple of those losses really hurt me ... seriously ... & I was glad to see you get by Minnesota. But like Detroit, New Orleans' second half schedule is a ball-buster, though SFran ain't lookin' all that impressive & Cutler (CHI) is melting down, as usual,

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Still, it's almost like being in an alternate reality watching you guys play so far this year. It'll get better though, hopefully Tampa, the bye week & a road win in Detroit will get your heads on straight.

billyt81 · 09-30-2014, 02:18 AM

Man Reggie Bush might run for 200yds and I don't even wanna think about Vaccarro trying to cover him.

SloMotion · 09-30-2014, 03:58 AM

The Yahoo Finance page is blaming it on the Jarius Byrd deal. The Sports bloggers didn't pick up on it, but the Finance guys did,

... is the NFL going to the geeks? :

The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them - Business Insider

The New Orleans Saints went into free agency in March with virtually no cap room.

They came out of free agency with the consensus No. 1 free agent, Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd, who they signed on a six-year, $54-million contract ... read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saints...195900134.html

Halo · 09-30-2014, 06:07 AM

It's true. Not only did we clear first string personnel to sign Graham who hasn't pulled his weight this season, we also went out and picked up the best free agent money could buy in Byrd. Only problem is we could have kept Malcolm Jenkins for 1-tenth what we are paying Byrd and could have signed two first class free agent d linemen or LB's. The article is true, we have personnel we have for about three years as all these deals are back loaded and guaranteed, so we MUST make these players fit and work whether they fit our scheme or not.

RailBoss · 09-30-2014, 06:50 AM

Somebody already said it "Fat Cats" is what the team has become. So they got their big money and now it's time to sit back. This current team has no drive or no compassion or so it seems.

westbankdaze · 09-30-2014, 06:55 AM

I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go.

Halo · 09-30-2014, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go.

Yeah probably the ones who have played on this team with Sean Payton for years and contributed to the organization at a decent rate, then Graham and Byrd come in with monster contracts and eat up all the money so they can't get help at positions needed to return to the SuperBowl. Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people.

billyt81 · 09-30-2014, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go.

Yea I totally agree and posted something real similar last night except I sort of blamed it all on JG.(unfair of course but). He was very outspoken about disliking the release of Sproles and Vilma. Plus he's still mad at Brees because after Brees signed his huge deal he went on ESPN and campaigned for the Saints to be able to pay JG as a TE. Then he said if we lost Graham because we couldn't sign him, we'd be fine without him.

SloMotion · 09-30-2014, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

... This current team has no drive or no compassion or so it seems.

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management ...

I only got to watch two partial games and some highlights and somewhat agree, it just didn't look like the Saints I've grown accustomed to since 2011 or so ... remember thinking at one point they looked like they were still in pre-season mode. Whatever it is, I still gotta' think Payton will pull them out of their funk ... at this point,

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Originally Posted by Halo

... Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people.

Originally Posted by billyt81

... he said if we lost Graham because we couldn't sign him, we'd be fine without him.

I gotta' tell you guys (again), this whole situation just smacks of yet another similarity between the Lions/Saints. It's almost identical to the situation Detroit has gotten themselves into with Suh's contract, except they didn't have the premium talent to jettison,

... but it has still tied their hands enough for them to finally realize that they'd probably be better off letting him go & get more value for those contract dollars.

09-29-2014, 11:36 AM	#11
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,740	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by The Dude This team is the worst team we have fielded since Payton came in. Horrible. Try something, anything. Give play calling duties to Carmichael, fire Ryan, I don't care but do something. Our defense is a joke and our offense is just not right. Have you noticed Colston? He's playing like he's bored. Wait....everyone is playing like they're bored. It's like they all just expect to win. Its weird. Halo likes this.

09-29-2014, 12:16 PM	#12
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by Mardigras9 We are only one game out of our bottom dwellers division, we are just pacing ourselves, lol. We just don't have it yet this year in almost every way, but there is a long way to go and I'm not sold on any NFC team yet. There is still hope!!! That's what I was focusing on, no one in the Division is really walking away with it ... yet ... and there's still time to right the ship. Couple of those losses really hurt me ... seriously ... & I was glad to see you get by Minnesota. But like Detroit, New Orleans' second half schedule is a ball-buster, though SFran ain't lookin' all that impressive & Cutler (CHI) is melting down, as usual, . Still, it's almost like being in an alternate reality watching you guys play so far this year. It'll get better though, hopefully Tampa, the bye week & a road win in Detroit will get your heads on straight. Halo, SmashMouth and 73Saint like this.

09-30-2014, 02:18 AM	#13
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Man Reggie Bush might run for 200yds and I don't even wanna think about Vaccarro trying to cover him.

09-30-2014, 03:58 AM	#14
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! The Yahoo Finance page is blaming it on the Jarius Byrd deal. The Sports bloggers didn't pick up on it, but the Finance guys did, ... is the NFL going to the geeks? : The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them - Business Insider The New Orleans Saints went into free agency in March with virtually no cap room. They came out of free agency with the consensus No. 1 free agent, Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd, who they signed on a six-year, $54-million contract ... read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saints...195900134.html Halo and bobdog86 like this.

09-30-2014, 06:07 AM	#15
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! It's true. Not only did we clear first string personnel to sign Graham who hasn't pulled his weight this season, we also went out and picked up the best free agent money could buy in Byrd. Only problem is we could have kept Malcolm Jenkins for 1-tenth what we are paying Byrd and could have signed two first class free agent d linemen or LB's. The article is true, we have personnel we have for about three years as all these deals are back loaded and guaranteed, so we MUST make these players fit and work whether they fit our scheme or not. iceshack149, SapperSaint, RailBoss and 2 others like this.
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09-30-2014, 07:13 AM	#18
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by westbankdaze I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go. Yeah probably the ones who have played on this team with Sean Payton for years and contributed to the organization at a decent rate, then Graham and Byrd come in with monster contracts and eat up all the money so they can't get help at positions needed to return to the SuperBowl. Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people. RailBoss, saintsfan1976 and SloMotion like this.

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billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by westbankdaze I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go. Yea I totally agree and posted something real similar last night except I sort of blamed it all on JG.(unfair of course but). He was very outspoken about disliking the release of Sproles and Vilma. Plus he's still mad at Brees because after Brees signed his huge deal he went on ESPN and campaigned for the Saints to be able to pay JG as a TE. Then he said if we lost Graham because we couldn't sign him, we'd be fine without him. SloMotion likes this.

09-30-2014, 08:29 AM	#20
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by RailBoss ... This current team has no drive or no compassion or so it seems. Originally Posted by westbankdaze I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management ... I only got to watch two partial games and some highlights and somewhat agree, it just didn't look like the Saints I've grown accustomed to since 2011 or so ... remember thinking at one point they looked like they were still in pre-season mode. Whatever it is, I still gotta' think Payton will pull them out of their funk ... at this point, . Originally Posted by Halo ... Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people. Originally Posted by billyt81 ... he said if we lost Graham because we couldn't sign him, we'd be fine without him. I gotta' tell you guys (again), this whole situation just smacks of yet another similarity between the Lions/Saints. It's almost identical to the situation Detroit has gotten themselves into with Suh's contract, except they didn't have the premium talent to jettison, ... but it has still tied their hands enough for them to finally realize that they'd probably be better off letting him go & get more value for those contract dollars. Halo likes this.

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