Benching Underachievers

Barry from MS · 10-01-2014, 02:38 PM

Should see plenty of disagreement here, but what do y'all think of doing the following with the opening series "defense" in the Dome Sunday vs the Bucs?

Deaderick, Starting NT...bench Bunkley. BB has been manhandled more often than he has been doing the manhandling, and his play has directly affected Hicks and Jordan with them having to picking up BB's slack.
R. Powell, Starting OLB...bench Haralson. Parys hasn't been consistent in run support, something he was brought here to specifically do.
V. Sunseri, Starting SS...bench KVac. Don't think KVac is fully healthy, but he's becoming a liability in run & pass defense. Yes, bench a #1st round draft pick, especially if he is not 100%.
K. Edebali, Starting OLB...bench Galette. Wake & shake Junior up from his contract coma. Yes, bench the Captain in the Dome.

I do realize you can't keep this line-up going throughout the game, but replacing these starters who are underachieving with the young guys who might just overachieve and make those incumbent starters nervous about their jobs. Start pulling these young guys when they show signs of not being able to handle it, and leave them in if they are making plays individually and/or the defense is making stops. The NFL is littered with rookies making an impact for their team, even (gasp!) starting.

Who cares if the coaches make an underachieving millionaire mad...you don't perform, you get replaced by somebody who actually wants to perform.

dizzle88 · 10-01-2014, 02:43 PM

Junior is definitely not worth what we paid for him

One dimensional player, and he even sucks at that dimension this year

captainshawn · 10-01-2014, 02:46 PM

I like it.

Danno · 10-01-2014, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Should see plenty of disagreement here, but what do y'all think of doing the following with the opening series "defense" in the Dome Sunday vs the Bucs?

Deaderick, Starting NT...bench Bunkley. BB has been manhandled more often than he has been doing the manhandling, and his play has directly affected Hicks and Jordan with them having to picking up BB's slack.
R. Powell, Starting OLB...bench Haralson. Parys hasn't been consistent in run support, something he was brought here to specifically do.
V. Sunseri, Starting SS...bench KVac. Don't think KVac is fully healthy, but he's becoming a liability in run & pass defense. Yes, bench a #1st round draft pick, especially if he is not 100%.
K. Edebali, Starting OLB...bench Galette. Wake & shake Junior up from his contract coma. Yes, bench the Captain in the Dome.

I do realize you can't keep this line-up going throughout the game, but replacing these starters who are underachieving with the young guys who might just overachieve and make those incumbent starters nervous about their jobs. Start pulling these young guys when they show signs of not being able to handle it, and leave them in if they are making plays individually and/or the defense is making stops. The NFL is littered with rookies making an impact for their team, even (gasp!) starting.

Who cares if the coaches make an underachieving millionaire mad...you don't perform, you get replaced by somebody who actually wants to perform.

At least your focusing on the right side of the ball.

jonnyrotten · 10-01-2014, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

At least your focusing on the right side of the ball.

Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

Danno · 10-01-2014, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

Graham? Why Graham? He's on pace for another monster season.

And RG4 or McCown over Brees?

Not getting that one.

Mardigras9 · 10-02-2014, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

And then it goes too far. Bench these offense guys in favor of who? I'll give you Hill has been playing well thiss season when given the chance.

Agree with benching some of the ineffective defense, hell it can't be any worse.

WHODATINCA · 10-02-2014, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

How do you say "Don't like"?. Bench Drew Brees? You need your dose adjusted.

saintfan · 10-01-2014, 03:05 PM

I said at halftime of the Dallas game something pretty close to this, out loud, and my kids can confirm it:

Bench every starter. All of them. In fact, remove them from the field. Make them shower, get on the bus, and wait for the rest of the team to finish the game.

Send this team a Mike Singleterry-type message. It's okay to get beat, but it is not okay to fail to show up - it is not okay to fail to play with passion and a sense of urgency. They don't owe us much of anything, as fans, but they do owe us that much.

Beastmode · 10-01-2014, 03:08 PM

The starters look tired, even after getting a breather. At least start rotating. Certainly can't hurt anything.

10-01-2014, 02:38 PM	#1
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Benching Underachievers Should see plenty of disagreement here, but what do y'all think of doing the following with the *opening series* "defense" in the Dome Sunday vs the Bucs? Deaderick, Starting NT...bench Bunkley. BB has been manhandled more often than he has been doing the manhandling, and his play has directly affected Hicks and Jordan with them having to picking up BB's slack. R. Powell, Starting OLB...bench Haralson. Parys hasn't been consistent in run support, something he was brought here to specifically do. V. Sunseri, Starting SS...bench KVac. Don't think KVac is fully healthy, but he's becoming a liability in run & pass defense. Yes, bench a #1st round draft pick, especially if he is not 100%. K. Edebali, Starting OLB...bench Galette. Wake & shake Junior up from his contract coma. Yes, bench the Captain in the Dome. I do realize you can't keep this line-up going throughout the game, but replacing these starters who are underachieving with the young guys who might just overachieve and make those incumbent starters nervous about their jobs. Start pulling these young guys when they show signs of not being able to handle it, and leave them in if they are making plays individually and/or the defense is making stops. The NFL is littered with rookies making an impact for their team, even (gasp!) starting. Who cares if the coaches make an underachieving millionaire mad...you don't perform, you get replaced by somebody who actually wants to perform. 4thqtrsaint, NonieT, billyt81 and 1 others like this.
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10-01-2014, 02:43 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Benching Underachievers Junior is definitely not worth what we paid for him One dimensional player, and he even sucks at that dimension this year Cruize, Barry from MS and K Major like this.

10-01-2014, 02:46 PM	#3
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Benching Underachievers I like it.

10-01-2014, 02:57 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by Barry from MS Should see plenty of disagreement here, but what do y'all think of doing the following with the *opening series* "defense" in the Dome Sunday vs the Bucs? Deaderick, Starting NT...bench Bunkley. BB has been manhandled more often than he has been doing the manhandling, and his play has directly affected Hicks and Jordan with them having to picking up BB's slack. R. Powell, Starting OLB...bench Haralson. Parys hasn't been consistent in run support, something he was brought here to specifically do. V. Sunseri, Starting SS...bench KVac. Don't think KVac is fully healthy, but he's becoming a liability in run & pass defense. Yes, bench a #1st round draft pick, especially if he is not 100%. K. Edebali, Starting OLB...bench Galette. Wake & shake Junior up from his contract coma. Yes, bench the Captain in the Dome. I do realize you can't keep this line-up going throughout the game, but replacing these starters who are underachieving with the young guys who might just overachieve and make those incumbent starters nervous about their jobs. Start pulling these young guys when they show signs of not being able to handle it, and leave them in if they are making plays individually and/or the defense is making stops. The NFL is littered with rookies making an impact for their team, even (gasp!) starting. Who cares if the coaches make an underachieving millionaire mad...you don't perform, you get replaced by somebody who actually wants to perform. At least your focusing on the right side of the ball. foreverfan likes this.

10-01-2014, 05:22 PM	#5
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by Danno At least your focusing on the right side of the ball. Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

10-01-2014, 08:03 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either. Graham? Why Graham? He's on pace for another monster season. And RG4 or McCown over Brees? Not getting that one.

10-02-2014, 10:37 AM	#7
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either. And then it goes too far. Bench these offense guys in favor of who? I'll give you Hill has been playing well thiss season when given the chance. Agree with benching some of the ineffective defense, hell it can't be any worse.

10-02-2014, 12:30 PM	#8
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either. How do you say "Don't like"?. Bench Drew Brees? You need your dose adjusted.

10-01-2014, 03:05 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Benching Underachievers I said at halftime of the Dallas game something pretty close to this, out loud, and my kids can confirm it: Bench every starter. All of them. In fact, remove them from the field. Make them shower, get on the bus, and wait for the rest of the team to finish the game. Send this team a Mike Singleterry-type message. It's okay to get beat, but it is not okay to fail to show up - it is not okay to fail to play with passion and a sense of urgency. They don't owe us much of anything, as fans, but they do owe us that much. halloween 65 likes this.

10-01-2014, 03:08 PM	#10
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Benching Underachievers The starters look tired, even after getting a breather. At least start rotating. Certainly can't hurt anything. Halo likes this.
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