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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Great article on TheAdvocate by Nick Underhill today. Nick explains that in times of urgency in game situations, the Saints defense plays for the turnover rather than playing solid fundmental football - ie. tackling, better angles, etc. It's a common ...
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Saints Defense Lacks Patience and Fundamentals In Crunch Situations
Great article on TheAdvocate by Nick Underhill today. Nick explains that in times of urgency in game situations, the Saints defense plays for the turnover rather than playing solid fundmental football - ie. tackling, better angles, etc. It's a common flaw we saw with Gregg Williams defense in his last two seasons.
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Re: Saints Defense Lacks Patience and Fundamentals In Crunch Situations
This article linked above is exactly on target. Our defense plays some shoddy "feetball" in situations where all we need is a simple stop. its been consistant like that all season. stupid and uneccesarry strips instead of good tackling technique is their style this season. Unfortunately we saw flashes of this from our defense last season too (Rams game, Seahawks regular season game, etc.)
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This is Sean Payton's fault.
If you recall he wanted more turnovers, and this is always what happens to defenses that focus on turnovers before fundamentals. This is what happens when you have an offensive coach giving the defense direction... Payton, shut up and let Ryan do his job! Edit: Payton doesn't get it still. Look at the quote bellow: “I don’t think the starting position has been as challenging as just the lack of possessions,” Payton said. “Going into last week’s game, from an efficiency standpoint, with the possessions, we were scoring. When you’re looking at the scoring efficiency, but the lack of opportunities is something that when we get to talking about a complementary game trying to have more possessions and what contributes to that, a turnover obviously does.” The last sentence is why this defense sucks. Payton doesn't seem to understand a 3 and out is effectively a turnover... |
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Re: Saints Defense Lacks Patience and Fundamentals In Crunch Situations
Originally Posted by blackangold
I forgot who 1st brought it up (I think either Mitch or Blackangold), but I believe there's some truth to it. We were so obsessed with getting more turnovers that we lost focus on sound fundamentals. Its like we're trying too hard to force turnovers when all we really need to do is play sound smash mouth defense and the turnovers will come.![]()
Jenkins and Harper both had hands of stone so we were at an interception disadvantage from the start. But now with Byrd and Vaccaro/Bush the picks should increase naturally without having to force or fabricate them. I'm positive that if we focus on sound fundamentals the turnovers will come. We need to quit obsessing about them. |
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Re: Saints Defense Lacks Patience and Fundamentals In Crunch Situations
Originally Posted by Danno
Someone needs to write a letter to Sean Payton. Maybe then he'll keep his nose out and let Ryan coach the defense.
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Re: Saints Defense Lacks Patience and Fundamentals In Crunch Situations
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See Mitch, at least when I argue with you ill bring facts in my pocket to make it interesting lol.
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