Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics

Halo · 10-03-2014, 10:03 AM

SportsNola.com writer David Grubb writes a truthful analysis of the Saints season and a laundry list of reasons on both sides of the ball as to why the saints season started to decline fast.

"The reasons for the demise are numerous:

They haven’t pressured quarterbacks. The Saints just have five sacks in four games. At this point last season, they had 12.

Lack of pressure has led to loads of passing yards for opposing quarterbacks. The defense has allowed 1090 passing yards, tied for second worst in the league...."

(read the full list at SportsNola.com, link at the bottom of this article.)

Grubbs continues highlighting criticisms of the Saints offense and their sub-par play this season:

"The team’s biggest perceived strength going in to the season has not performed at a level that fans have come to expect.

The Saints rank just 12th in the league offensively. They sit behind teams like Washington, Kansas City, and Miami.

While the Saints are 3rd in passing yards, Drew Brees has just 7 touchdown passes which ranks tied for eighth in the NFL...."

(read the full list at SportsNola.com, link at the bottom of this article.)

Ultimately, David Grubb puts the blame and responsibility for any possible turnaround on Saints head coach Sean Payton.

No coach this side of Bill Belichick wields the kind of power within an organization that Payton does in New Orleans. This is his team, filled with his guys.

Then the writer points out alarming facts about Coach Payton's New Orleans Saints and their back-to-back playoff record.

Those things aside, the fact remains that under Payton the Saints have not won playoff games in back-to-back seasons, and it looks like that streak will continue barring a major turnaround. The team cannot play enough on the road, going 0-3 this season and losing eight of their last nine away from New Orleans overall.

READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE AND ANALYSIS AT SPORTSNOLA.COM

Utah_Saint · 10-03-2014, 11:10 AM

Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.

Halo · 10-03-2014, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.

Yeah, after reading again, I guess it was negative. I usually try to concentrate on the upcoming opponent. Still, he makes a point - SP is the head coach and eventually blame will fall on him if the team doesn't start playing fundamental football.

Utah_Saint · 10-03-2014, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Yeah, after reading again, I guess it was negative. I usually try to concentrate on the upcoming opponent. Still, he makes a point - SP is the head coach and eventually blame will fall on him if the team doesn't start playing fundamental football.

That's true. And it would be tough to fill an article with positives about the Saints season so far.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-06-2014, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.

I have to respectfully disagree. The points the author brought up are valid.

Simply put, if the defense can put together a single 3rd down play that is equivalent to Juniors safety each drive, then the saints would have a lot less to worry about.

The yards both on the ground and in the air that the defense is giving up is a function of not pressuring the QB and not getting off the field on 3rd down.

And honestly just like yesterday, the offense doesn't finish drives and has too too too too too (is that enough) many turnovers.

The record is clear, when the offense doesn't turn over the ball, we win.

So it's actually keeping it simple. Pressure the opposing QB by any means and don't turn the ball over.

SFIAH

Mardigras9 · 10-03-2014, 11:17 AM

Hopefully, we get to start seeing more positive articles after Tampa.

"Saints find their Mojo"
"Watchout, the Saints are back in town"
"Saints serve notice"

Something along these lines.

Utah_Saint · 10-03-2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Hopefully, we get to start seeing more positive articles after Tampa.

"Saints find their Mojo"
"Watchout, the Saints are back in town"
"Saints serve notice"

Something along these lines.

Yep, can't really blame them for writing negative stuff, it's gotta be hard to find the positives.

blackangold · 10-03-2014, 12:07 PM

When nothing seems to be going right there is only one thing to blame, the lack of leadership and direction. The offense is inconsistent at best and the defense is awful along with the special team's sucking as usual.

Payton do your job!

QBREES9 · 10-03-2014, 12:34 PM

The Saints have a game on Sunday. Lets start there.

Audiotom · 10-03-2014, 01:29 PM

2 road wins in a row would be of note

that said don't underestimate the bucs

win sunday

10-03-2014, 10:03 AM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics SportsNola.com writer David Grubb writes a truthful analysis of the Saints season and a laundry list of reasons on both sides of the ball as to why the saints season started to decline fast. "The reasons for the demise are numerous: They haven’t pressured quarterbacks. The Saints just have five sacks in four games. At this point last season, they had 12. Lack of pressure has led to loads of passing yards for opposing quarterbacks. The defense has allowed 1090 passing yards, tied for second worst in the league...." (read the full list at SportsNola.com, link at the bottom of this article.) Grubbs continues highlighting criticisms of the Saints offense and their sub-par play this season: "The team’s biggest perceived strength going in to the season has not performed at a level that fans have come to expect. The Saints rank just 12th in the league offensively. They sit behind teams like Washington, Kansas City, and Miami. While the Saints are 3rd in passing yards, Drew Brees has just 7 touchdown passes which ranks tied for eighth in the NFL...." *(read the full list at SportsNola.com, link at the bottom of this article.)* Ultimately, David Grubb puts the blame and responsibility for any possible turnaround on Saints head coach Sean Payton. No coach this side of Bill Belichick wields the kind of power within an organization that Payton does in New Orleans. This is his team, filled with his guys. Then the writer points out alarming facts about Coach Payton's New Orleans Saints and their back-to-back playoff record. Those things aside, the fact remains that under Payton the Saints have not won playoff games in back-to-back seasons, and it looks like that streak will continue barring a major turnaround. The team cannot play enough on the road, going 0-3 this season and losing eight of their last nine away from New Orleans overall. READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE AND ANALYSIS AT SPORTSNOLA.COM Attached Thumbnails
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10-03-2014, 11:10 AM	#2
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda. saintsfan403 likes this.

10-03-2014, 11:28 AM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda. Yeah, after reading again, I guess it was negative. I usually try to concentrate on the upcoming opponent. Still, he makes a point - SP is the head coach and eventually blame will fall on him if the team doesn't start playing fundamental football.

10-03-2014, 11:35 AM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Originally Posted by Halo Yeah, after reading again, I guess it was negative. I usually try to concentrate on the upcoming opponent. Still, he makes a point - SP is the head coach and eventually blame will fall on him if the team doesn't start playing fundamental football. That's true. And it would be tough to fill an article with positives about the Saints season so far. Halo likes this.

10-06-2014, 01:34 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda. I have to respectfully disagree. The points the author brought up are valid. Simply put, if the defense can put together a single 3rd down play that is equivalent to Juniors safety each drive, then the saints would have a lot less to worry about. The yards both on the ground and in the air that the defense is giving up is a function of not pressuring the QB and not getting off the field on 3rd down. And honestly just like yesterday, the offense doesn't finish drives and has too too too too too (is that enough) many turnovers. The record is clear, when the offense doesn't turn over the ball, we win. So it's actually keeping it simple. Pressure the opposing QB by any means and don't turn the ball over. SFIAH
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10-03-2014, 11:17 AM	#6
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Hopefully, we get to start seeing more positive articles after Tampa. "Saints find their Mojo" "Watchout, the Saints are back in town" "Saints serve notice" Something along these lines. Utah_Saint and teddybarexxx like this.

10-03-2014, 11:22 AM	#7
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Hopefully, we get to start seeing more positive articles after Tampa. "Saints find their Mojo" "Watchout, the Saints are back in town" "Saints serve notice" Something along these lines. Yep, can't really blame them for writing negative stuff, it's gotta be hard to find the positives.

10-03-2014, 12:07 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics When nothing seems to be going right there is only one thing to blame, the lack of leadership and direction. The offense is inconsistent at best and the defense is awful along with the special team's sucking as usual. Payton do your job! teddybarexxx likes this.

10-03-2014, 12:34 PM	#9
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics The Saints have a game on Sunday. Lets start there. teddybarexxx likes this.

10-03-2014, 01:29 PM	#10
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics 2 road wins in a row would be of note that said don't underestimate the bucs win sunday

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