Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics

NOLA54 · 10-03-2014, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

2 road wins in a row would be of note

that said don't underestimate the bucs

win sunday

I agree. Just beating the Bucs is not enough to celebrate.

darstep · 10-04-2014, 08:36 AM

12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly.
Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT
what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past.
Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately.
They start slow and never seem to recover.
The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused.
Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique.
Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership...
at every level.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-06-2014, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly.

We don't need to win 12 games. We need to win enough games to get to the playoffs. As this wikipedia entry points out:

National Football League playoffs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there have been instances where the #6 seed has won it all.

I would advise after 5 games putting in lofty requirements for the season. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

The goal always has been, and always should be, getting to the playoffs and getting better. If that means getting in as a 10-6 division winner, then so be it.

Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT
what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past.
Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately.
They start slow and never seem to recover.
The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused.
Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique.
Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership...
at every level.

Agreed. And just keeping it simple. Defense needs to get off the field. Offense needs to not give the ball away. That would be enough to beat all but the most elite teams in this league.

SFIAH

QBREES9 · 10-04-2014, 09:34 AM

Baby steps, Walk before you can run. But thats why we have preseason.

jeanpierre · 10-05-2014, 07:15 AM

This excerpt from the article - "Payton was mentored by Bill Parcells, who wasn’t credited with inventing any great offensive or defensive innovations. The Tuna had talented teams, but not historically so. Parcells won a lot of games in a lot of places by making football look pretty simple. He took away what other teams did well. His teams didn’t make mistakes to kill themselves. They were balanced and poised." - really encapsulates the situation; the team gets away from it's balance on offense, seems to force things rather than take what the opposition gives 'em, and gets too cute at times...

These are things that Payton has too address; remember reading Ryan saying his defensive schemes, reads, et al may have gotten too complicated...

vpheughan · 10-05-2014, 10:39 AM

"Get back to basics" Famous last words!!

dizzle88 · 10-05-2014, 10:43 AM

Keep it simple stupid

Rugby Saint II · 10-06-2014, 12:38 PM

Payton is ultimately responsible.........it would be better if our draft picks would pan out.

AlaskaSaints · 10-06-2014, 03:03 PM

I'm quickly losing confidence in Payton's play calling. He's becoming the most predictable coach in the league.

10-03-2014, 09:36 PM	#1
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Originally Posted by Audiotom 2 road wins in a row would be of note that said don't underestimate the bucs win sunday I agree. Just beating the Bucs is not enough to celebrate.

10-04-2014, 08:36 AM	#2
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics 12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly. Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past. Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately. They start slow and never seem to recover. The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused. Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique. Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership... at every level.

10-06-2014, 01:47 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Originally Posted by darstep 12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly. We don't need to win 12 games. We need to win enough games to get to the playoffs. As this wikipedia entry points out: National Football League playoffs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia there have been instances where the #6 seed has won it all. I would advise after 5 games putting in lofty requirements for the season. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment. The goal always has been, and always should be, getting to the playoffs and getting better. If that means getting in as a 10-6 division winner, then so be it. Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past. Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately. They start slow and never seem to recover. The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused. Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique. Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership... at every level. Agreed. And just keeping it simple. Defense needs to get off the field. Offense needs to not give the ball away. That would be enough to beat all but the most elite teams in this league. SFIAH
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics Baby steps, Walk before you can run. But thats why we have preseason.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics This excerpt from the article - "Payton was mentored by Bill Parcells, who wasn’t credited with inventing any great offensive or defensive innovations. The Tuna had talented teams, but not historically so. Parcells won a lot of games in a lot of places by making football look pretty simple. He took away what other teams did well. His teams didn’t make mistakes to kill themselves. They were balanced and poised." - really encapsulates the situation; the team gets away from it's balance on offense, seems to force things rather than take what the opposition gives 'em, and gets too cute at times... These are things that Payton has too address; remember reading Ryan saying his defensive schemes, reads, et al may have gotten too complicated... K Major likes this.
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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics I'm quickly losing confidence in Payton's play calling. He's becoming the most predictable coach in the league.

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