Jarius Byrd to IR

10-03-2014, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Sounds like he don't play unless he's "100%"
Jairus Byrd won’t play unless he feels 100 percent | ProFootballTalk

That's a whole nother injury and I have no idea how serious his foot injury was...

Byrd hasn’t been in the lineup at all for the Bills this year because of his own foot problem and, unlike Holmes, Byrd won’t be taking a step on the field until he’s certain that he’s 100 percent.

Halo · 10-03-2014, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

That's a whole nother injury and I have no idea how serious his foot injury was...

Plantar Fasciitis.
Top Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd battling plantar fasciitis - ESPN

Read the comments on the ESPN article from Bills fans:

John Zendano
"plantar fasciitis= Flat Feet ---- Did not know that Flat Feet would be such an issue. I thought that players learn how to play with pain? Well if I was guaranteed millions to wait for my flat feet to recover I would relax."

Cody White
"It seems odd that suddenly after he signs his franchise tender that he develops a foot issue. I really hope he's not trying to burn us here."....

Among other comments (I'm starting to feel nauseous)

|Mitch| · 10-03-2014, 04:23 PM

Not just flat feet

Plantar fasciitis is a common painful disorder affecting the heel and underside of the foot. It is a disorder of the insertion site of ligament on the bone and is characterized by scarring, inflammation, or structural breakdown of the foot's plantar fascia. It is often caused by overuse injury of the plantar fascia, increases in exercise, weight or age. Though plantar fasciitis was originally thought to be an inflammatory process, newer studies have demonstrated structural changes more consistent with a degenerative process. As a result of this new observation, many in the academic community have stated the condition should be renamed plantar fasciosis.[1]

Plantar fasciitis is the most common injury of the plantar fascia[2] and is the most common cause of heel pain.[3][4] Approximately 10% of people have plantar fasciitis at some point during their lifetime.[5][6] It is commonly associated with long periods of standing and is much more prevalent in individuals with excessive inward rolling of the foot, which is seen with flat feet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis

WillSaints81 · 10-03-2014, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I hate to see a player injured, but as a team standpoint it might be a good thing...

Byrd wasn't having the best performances, let's see who steps up in his absence... Bush has played well and now gets his chance to start

Yeah believe it or not, I think we might be better with him hurt. After all, he did not learn much with us due to back surgery. And he probably would have clicked later on in the season. Maybe now we get back to basics with our defense and tackle and force stops again.

Our offense though is under more pressure to not make mistakes now.

|Mitch| · 10-03-2014, 04:37 PM

Byrd's replacement is no slouch.

Safety Rafael Bush will jump in the starting lineup to replace Byrd and is more than familiar with the Saints defense. Bush played a ton last season in the team's three-safety scheme and received about half the defensive snaps in three of the first four games this year.

The Saints played hardball with Atlanta to regain the services of Bush. New Orleans matched the Falcons' restricted free agent offer for Bush to maintain its ability to use three safeties in defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's defense. The Saints would be in a much bigger world of hurt if Bush left for Atlanta.

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Halo · 10-03-2014, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Not just flat feet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis

Yeah, reading a diagnosis on ESPN from a Bills fan was probably not worth believing.

I just thought I could dust up another frenzy of overreaction

Utah_Saint · 10-03-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Would meniscus surgery be an IR event under normal circumstances? I had surgery on my meniscus for a tear after my original knee surgery didn't heal properly(long story), but after about a month I was back to 100% normal...

Could it be Byrd's lack of production influenced Payton?

I'm not going to pretend I know anything about meniscus injuries but they referred to this one as a "bucket handle tear." I did a google search and I still don't know much more than before but I did learn that the bucket handle tear is bad for two reasons, one it's a very big tear on the meniscus and two, often times there's inadequate blood flow for the tendon to heal properly.

I've read rehab times vary from 6 weeks to 6 months depending on the person and the damage.

WHODATINCA · 10-03-2014, 05:05 PM

So, we have to pay Byrd even though he may never play another game for us? Wow! Then what insurance do teams have that players won't fake an injury? Apparently, some injuries are only diagnose-able by reporting of symptoms.

Utah_Saint · 10-03-2014, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

So, we have to pay Byrd even though he may never play another game for us? Wow! Then what insurance do teams have that players won't fake an injury? Apparently, some injuries are only diagnose-able by reporting of symptoms.

That's an age old problem. Teams have doctors to try to diagnose problems but you're right, some problems like lower back pain, whiplash and foot pain, many times, don't show signs of damage.

The Portland Trailblazers said privately for years that Bill Walton was faking his foot injuries.

captainshawn · 10-03-2014, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Just not our year. Time to tank for draft

That's the spirit...Let's just give up.

WTH?

10-03-2014, 03:56 PM	#51
Threaded by \|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Halo Sounds like he don't play unless he's "100%" Jairus Byrd won’t play unless he feels 100 percent \| ProFootballTalk That's a whole nother injury and I have no idea how serious his foot injury was... Byrd hasn’t been in the lineup at all for the Bills this year because of his own foot problem and, unlike Holmes, Byrd won’t be taking a step on the field until he’s certain that he’s 100 percent.
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10-03-2014, 04:15 PM	#52
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,896 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| That's a whole nother injury and I have no idea how serious his foot injury was... Plantar Fasciitis. Top Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd battling plantar fasciitis - ESPN Read the comments on the ESPN article from Bills fans: John Zendano "plantar fasciitis= Flat Feet ---- Did not know that Flat Feet would be such an issue. I thought that players learn how to play with pain? Well if I was guaranteed millions to wait for my flat feet to recover I would relax." Cody White "It seems odd that suddenly after he signs his franchise tender that he develops a foot issue. I really hope he's not trying to burn us here.".... Among other comments (I'm starting to feel nauseous) RailBoss likes this.
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10-03-2014, 04:23 PM	#53
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Not just flat feet Plantar fasciitis is a common painful disorder affecting the heel and underside of the foot. It is a disorder of the insertion site of ligament on the bone and is characterized by scarring, inflammation, or structural breakdown of the foot's plantar fascia. It is often caused by overuse injury of the plantar fascia, increases in exercise, weight or age. Though plantar fasciitis was originally thought to be an inflammatory process, newer studies have demonstrated structural changes more consistent with a degenerative process. As a result of this new observation, many in the academic community have stated the condition should be renamed plantar fasciosis.[1] Plantar fasciitis is the most common injury of the plantar fascia[2] and is the most common cause of heel pain.[3][4] Approximately 10% of people have plantar fasciitis at some point during their lifetime.[5][6] It is commonly associated with long periods of standing and is much more prevalent in individuals with excessive inward rolling of the foot, which is seen with flat feet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis Halo and RailBoss like this.

10-03-2014, 04:30 PM	#54
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I hate to see a player injured, but as a team standpoint it might be a good thing... Byrd wasn't having the best performances, let's see who steps up in his absence... Bush has played well and now gets his chance to start Yeah believe it or not, I think we might be better with him hurt. After all, he did not learn much with us due to back surgery. And he probably would have clicked later on in the season. Maybe now we get back to basics with our defense and tackle and force stops again. Our offense though is under more pressure to not make mistakes now.

10-03-2014, 04:37 PM	#55
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Twitter Byrd's replacement is no slouch. Safety Rafael Bush will jump in the starting lineup to replace Byrd and is more than familiar with the Saints defense. Bush played a ton last season in the team's three-safety scheme and received about half the defensive snaps in three of the first four games this year. The Saints played hardball with Atlanta to regain the services of Bush. New Orleans matched the Falcons' restricted free agent offer for Bush to maintain its ability to use three safeties in defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's defense. The Saints would be in a much bigger world of hurt if Bush left for Atlanta. Halo likes this.
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10-03-2014, 04:39 PM	#56
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,896 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Not just flat feet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis Yeah, reading a diagnosis on ESPN from a Bills fan was probably not worth believing. I just thought I could dust up another frenzy of overreaction

10-03-2014, 04:53 PM	#57
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Would meniscus surgery be an IR event under normal circumstances? I had surgery on my meniscus for a tear after my original knee surgery didn't heal properly(long story), but after about a month I was back to 100% normal... Could it be Byrd's lack of production influenced Payton? I'm not going to pretend I know anything about meniscus injuries but they referred to this one as a "bucket handle tear." I did a google search and I still don't know much more than before but I did learn that the bucket handle tear is bad for two reasons, one it's a very big tear on the meniscus and two, often times there's inadequate blood flow for the tendon to heal properly. I've read rehab times vary from 6 weeks to 6 months depending on the person and the damage. \|Mitch\| likes this.

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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR So, we have to pay Byrd even though he may never play another game for us? Wow! Then what insurance do teams have that players won't fake an injury? Apparently, some injuries are only diagnose-able by reporting of symptoms. Halo likes this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Originally Posted by WHODATINCA So, we have to pay Byrd even though he may never play another game for us? Wow! Then what insurance do teams have that players won't fake an injury? Apparently, some injuries are only diagnose-able by reporting of symptoms. That's an age old problem. Teams have doctors to try to diagnose problems but you're right, some problems like lower back pain, whiplash and foot pain, many times, don't show signs of damage. The Portland Trailblazers said privately for years that Bill Walton was faking his foot injuries.

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captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Jarius Byrd to IR Originally Posted by The Dude Just not our year. Time to tank for draft That's the spirit...Let's just give up. WTH? SaintFanInATLHELL and teddybarexxx like this.

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