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K Major 10-08-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 617175)
Vaccaro played a lot better in the Bucs game, a lot better than the previous games...

It almost seems that he and Bush trust each other more

I might be in the minority here but Kenny V has regressed in his play.

Although he was slightly better against the Bucs, his overall tackling over the last few weeks has been poor and unacceptable at the safety position.

Boutte 10-08-2014 05:06 PM

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What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

WHODATINCA 10-08-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 617403)
What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

Did he get paid? That unfortunately seems to be a predictive metric.

Barry from MS 10-08-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 617403)
What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

I know he was fighting a back injury last year...that doesn't go away too easily.

And he got a 7 yr/$56.7 mil with $19 mil in the first year. Signed it before the 2010 season.

My guess is the back issue. It ages you quickly...trust me.

Barry from MS 10-08-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 617400)
I might be in the minority here but Kenny V has regressed in his play.

Although he was slightly better against the Bucs, his overall tackling over the last few weeks has been poor and unacceptable at the safety position.

Naw, man, you ain't the minority. A few of us have thought the same thing. Sophomore Slump, nagging injury, personal issues...who knows?

whybag 10-08-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 617203)
White got burned on that endzone shot (not sure why he pulled his hand back);

When I saw that flag go down, I thought for sure it was offensive PI, because no way would a corner be that far behind unless he got pushed back.

Hell if I wasn't wrong. Dead wrong. How do you get that far behind, THEN pull your hand back from the ball in flight?

saintsfan1976 10-09-2014 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by whybag (Post 617438)
When I saw that flag go down, I thought for sure it was offensive PI, because no way would a corner be that far behind unless he got pushed back.



Hell if I wasn't wrong. Dead wrong. How do you get that far behind, THEN pull your hand back from the ball in flight?



I'll tell you how. Go outside. Run backwards, turn, run, turn again, spin your head around and then jump backwards while reaching in the air. How'd you do?

saintsfan1976 10-09-2014 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 617423)
Naw, man, you ain't the minority. A few of us have thought the same thing. Sophomore Slump, nagging injury, personal issues...who knows?


Totally disagree. Previously I though KV played "average" vs Tampa but that was with his penalties. He was finally flying all over the field like last year.

Ryan put him in a single role vs TB instead of 3 or 4 responsibilities. Maybe you noticed him playing more SS??

It helped and he's admittedly moving faster since breaking his ankle.

NonieT 10-10-2014 11:23 AM

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He said the 1st 4 weeks his ankle was a little sore. He said now he is finally 100%. That might have a little to do with what was going on.

Rugby Saint II 10-11-2014 02:16 PM

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Colston and Galette are my two biggest surprises.


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