Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas?

Danno · 10-12-2014, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

I was actually think about something today (trust me, it hurts the first time):

A Jimmy Graham trade? We just paid the man big, but there were some teams I watched today that would put some teams over that hump with Miami, NYG & Houston coming to mind. The obvious teams of OAK, JAX, WAS, and NYJ would be in that mix as well.

Graham is a monster and maybe a future HOF'er as well. Could you just imagine what we would get for him? Or is he too indispensable now and our future? We can definitely win without him, but he is an unbelievable weapon when he is in on the field.

We can't, he'd cost us 16 million against the cap if we traded him.

Barry from MS · 10-12-2014, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We can't, he'd cost us 16 million against the cap if we traded him.

Another team wouldn't pick up his contract and/or guaranteed money if we traded him?

I do admit that the money side of the NFL is a bit out of my lane. I don't understand a bunch of the cap things, which I should really study myself up to have a coherent conversation about it.

But if you say so, then NO WAY...we can't afford a cap hit like that one.

Danno · 10-12-2014, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Another team wouldn't pick up his contract and/or guaranteed money if we traded him?

I do admit that the money side of the NFL is a bit out of my lane. I don't understand a bunch of the cap things, which I should really study myself up to have a coherent conversation about it.

But if you say so, then NO WAY...we can't afford a cap hit like that one.

The way it works is if a team cuts or trades a player, all guaranteed money, signing bonus etc accelerates to the year of the deal. You can spread it over 2 seasons if its after June 1st.

The league wouldn't even allow it since it would put us 16 million over the cap this year.

billyt81 · 10-12-2014, 08:26 PM

Drew Brees for JJ Watt. Similar salaries I think. JJ and Cam at DE giving us the best DL in the NFL. The Texans need a QB. We roll with Luke McCown. Play D and run the ball. I'm down.

Danno · 10-12-2014, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Drew Brees for JJ Watt. Similar salaries I think. JJ and Cam at DE giving us the best DL in the NFL. The Texans need a QB. We roll with Luke McCown. Play D and run the ball. I'm down.

Trading Drew can't happen, it would cost us 22 million against the cap

The Texans can't trade JJ, it would cost them 36 million against their cap.

Player trades mean all dead money counts immediately against the cap.

Its impossible to trade Brees, Watt or any player with a huge contract unless he's in his last year and the dead money is low.

Barry from MS · 10-12-2014, 09:38 PM

Last year of a contract. Got it. Makes sense now. Thanks, man.

s2kguy · 10-16-2014, 08:51 AM

Trade for CJ Spiller and get our "Darren Sproles" like figure back in our back field. Then Trade KR for a 3rd or 4th round pick to whomever. Bye Bye Cadet.

10-12-2014, 07:37 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Originally Posted by Barry from MS I was actually think about something today (trust me, it hurts the first time): A Jimmy Graham trade? We just paid the man big, but there were some teams I watched today that would put some teams over that hump with Miami, NYG & Houston coming to mind. The obvious teams of OAK, JAX, WAS, and NYJ would be in that mix as well. Graham is a monster and maybe a future HOF'er as well. Could you just imagine what we would get for him? Or is he too indispensable now and our future? We can definitely win without him, but he is an unbelievable weapon when he is in on the field. We can't, he'd cost us 16 million against the cap if we traded him.

10-12-2014, 08:10 PM	#2
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Originally Posted by Danno We can't, he'd cost us 16 million against the cap if we traded him. Another team wouldn't pick up his contract and/or guaranteed money if we traded him? I do admit that the money side of the NFL is a bit out of my lane. I don't understand a bunch of the cap things, which I should really study myself up to have a coherent conversation about it. But if you say so, then NO WAY...we can't afford a cap hit like that one.

10-12-2014, 08:15 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Originally Posted by Barry from MS Another team wouldn't pick up his contract and/or guaranteed money if we traded him? I do admit that the money side of the NFL is a bit out of my lane. I don't understand a bunch of the cap things, which I should really study myself up to have a coherent conversation about it. But if you say so, then NO WAY...we can't afford a cap hit like that one. The way it works is if a team cuts or trades a player, all guaranteed money, signing bonus etc accelerates to the year of the deal. You can spread it over 2 seasons if its after June 1st. The league wouldn't even allow it since it would put us 16 million over the cap this year.

10-12-2014, 08:26 PM	#4
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Drew Brees for JJ Watt. Similar salaries I think. JJ and Cam at DE giving us the best DL in the NFL. The Texans need a QB. We roll with Luke McCown. Play D and run the ball. I'm down.

10-12-2014, 09:31 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Originally Posted by billyt81 Drew Brees for JJ Watt. Similar salaries I think. JJ and Cam at DE giving us the best DL in the NFL. The Texans need a QB. We roll with Luke McCown. Play D and run the ball. I'm down. Trading Drew can't happen, it would cost us 22 million against the cap The Texans can't trade JJ, it would cost them 36 million against their cap. Player trades mean all dead money counts immediately against the cap. Its impossible to trade Brees, Watt or any player with a huge contract unless he's in his last year and the dead money is low. SaintFanInATLHELL and \|Mitch\| like this.

10-12-2014, 09:38 PM	#6
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Last year of a contract. Got it. Makes sense now. Thanks, man.

10-16-2014, 08:51 AM	#7
s2kguy 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 132	Re: Trade Deadline Oct 28th -- Any Ideas? Trade for CJ Spiller and get our "Darren Sproles" like figure back in our back field. Then Trade KR for a 3rd or 4th round pick to whomever. Bye Bye Cadet.

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