Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014

Danno · 10-10-2014, 05:30 PM

Nick Toon is a BUST. A “bust” of EPIC proportions.

A 4th round pick, IR'd for a year and still on the team in his 3rd year is hardly what I'd call a "bust of EPIC proportions". Sensationalize much?

Danno · 10-10-2014, 05:32 PM

Also, I've seen Meachem blow past his man 4 times this season only to have Drew throw it too short and its broken up.

One more yard on those 4 throws and Meachem may be having his best season ever.

blackangold · 10-10-2014, 06:10 PM

This is by far the best group Brees has ever been able to throw to...

Please name another year where Drew had this many options... we are loaded. Its either Drews timing is off because of camp or he has lost some arm strength.

None of that matters though. Offensively if we dont turn the ball over we could be just as good as 2011. Stop throwing picks Drew.

Danno · 10-10-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

This is by far the best group Brees has ever been able to throw to...

Please name another year where Drew had this many options... we are loaded. Its either Drews timing is off because of camp or he has lost some arm strength.

None of that matters though. Offensively if we dont turn the ball over we could be just as good as 2011. Stop throwing picks Drew.

Agreed.

I think its mostly Drews inability to set his feet and step up into the pocket and launch the deep ball. I don't think his arm strength has declined at all and I wish I could find that article that mentioned arm-strength is the last thing to go on aging QB's.

He doesn't have an all-world Carl Nicks at LG, or the all-world Jahri Evans from a few years ago providing that comfy pocket up front. Our O-line went from all-world pass protection to mediocre at best.

I also think that because of our defensive struggles that Drew feels he has to make something happen on every possession. This must be the reason for some of the dumbest throws I've ever seen Drew make. Arm strength has nothing to do with the dumb throws.

RailBoss · 10-11-2014, 01:26 AM

Drew also doesn't have Lance Moore and Darren Sproles who were able to pick up those short passes when pressured. Those guys were a deterrent for the LB's and DB's and kept them honest. I don't see any current player stepping into those roles.

hagan714 · 10-11-2014, 06:24 AM

saints need a WR that can work the middle of the field. not a burner but a route runner that has hands and can take a beating. That or for once get Drew a true #1. Colston has done a good imitation of one. But he is a True #2 if i ever saw one.

I have never bought into the quality depth hype of saints WR but for once i have seen improvement in picks in the past two years. also Drew has never had the strongest arm in the NFL so deep threats are not always as dangerous as we would hope for. but under 40 yards Drew is deadly.

some mid to late rounds i am watching are. because only three WR are safe to stick. the rest can be replaced

perfect fit round 3/4
WR/KR Rannell Hall UCF

tall end of the draft

A big boy just learning the game and has some impressive size and hands.
Vince Mayle WR Washington State

interesting prospect late. quick physical and a good route runner
WR Justin Hardy East Carolina

Cruize · 10-13-2014, 09:47 AM

Meachem being on the team for his blocking consindering the team never runs the ball says it all.

Danno · 10-13-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Meachem being on the team for his blocking consindering the team never runs the ball says it all.

The NFL average for rushing attempts per game is 27. We are at 26.

I'd like to rush more, but its not like we never run.

SmashMouth · 10-13-2014, 10:10 AM

Is Coleman ready to chime in?

dizzle88 · 10-13-2014, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Is Coleman ready to chime in?

Like we really need more WR's with bad hands on gameday

We already have colston and Graham dropping anything thrown their way.

10-10-2014, 06:10 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 This is by far the best group Brees has ever been able to throw to... Please name another year where Drew had this many options... we are loaded. Its either Drews timing is off because of camp or he has lost some arm strength. None of that matters though. Offensively if we dont turn the ball over we could be just as good as 2011. Stop throwing picks Drew. Danno, billyt81 and MarchingOn like this.

10-10-2014, 06:27 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Originally Posted by blackangold This is by far the best group Brees has ever been able to throw to... Please name another year where Drew had this many options... we are loaded. Its either Drews timing is off because of camp or he has lost some arm strength. None of that matters though. Offensively if we dont turn the ball over we could be just as good as 2011. Stop throwing picks Drew. Agreed. I think its mostly Drews inability to set his feet and step up into the pocket and launch the deep ball. I don't think his arm strength has declined at all and I wish I could find that article that mentioned arm-strength is the last thing to go on aging QB's. He doesn't have an all-world Carl Nicks at LG, or the all-world Jahri Evans from a few years ago providing that comfy pocket up front. Our O-line went from all-world pass protection to mediocre at best. I also think that because of our defensive struggles that Drew feels he has to make something happen on every possession. This must be the reason for some of the dumbest throws I've ever seen Drew make. Arm strength has nothing to do with the dumb throws. Rugby Saint II and Utah_Saint like this.

10-11-2014, 01:26 AM	#5
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Drew also doesn't have Lance Moore and Darren Sproles who were able to pick up those short passes when pressured. Those guys were a deterrent for the LB's and DB's and kept them honest. I don't see any current player stepping into those roles.

10-11-2014, 06:24 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 saints need a WR that can work the middle of the field. not a burner but a route runner that has hands and can take a beating. That or for once get Drew a true #1. Colston has done a good imitation of one. But he is a True #2 if i ever saw one. I have never bought into the quality depth hype of saints WR but for once i have seen improvement in picks in the past two years. also Drew has never had the strongest arm in the NFL so deep threats are not always as dangerous as we would hope for. but under 40 yards Drew is deadly. some mid to late rounds i am watching are. because only three WR are safe to stick. the rest can be replaced perfect fit round 3/4 WR/KR Rannell Hall UCF tall end of the draft A big boy just learning the game and has some impressive size and hands. Vince Mayle WR Washington State interesting prospect late. quick physical and a good route runner WR Justin Hardy East Carolina
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10-13-2014, 09:47 AM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Meachem being on the team for his blocking consindering the team never runs the ball says it all.
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10-10-2014, 05:30 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Nick Toon is a BUST. A “bust” of EPIC proportions. A 4th round pick, IR'd for a year and still on the team in his 3rd year is hardly what I'd call a "bust of EPIC proportions". Sensationalize much?

10-10-2014, 05:32 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Also, I've seen Meachem blow past his man 4 times this season only to have Drew throw it too short and its broken up. One more yard on those 4 throws and Meachem may be having his best season ever. RailBoss, hagan714, saintsfan1976 and 4 others like this.

10-13-2014, 10:36 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Originally Posted by Cruize Meachem being on the team for his blocking consindering the team never runs the ball says it all. The NFL average for rushing attempts per game is 27. We are at 26. I'd like to rush more, but its not like we never run.

10-13-2014, 10:10 AM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,720 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Is Coleman ready to chime in?

10-13-2014, 11:08 AM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Is Coleman ready to chime in? Like we really need more WR's with bad hands on gameday We already have colston and Graham dropping anything thrown their way.

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