New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions

10-14-2014, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not at all, it was obvious he was much better than Pittman from day 1 of training camp. It wasn't even close, Pittman was a bust.

But are SJB and Powell busts?

I'm not surprised 2 UDFA's are getting playing time, I'm surprised and disappointed that two draft picks at areas of obvious needs aren't.

Exactly ... probably TBD in these latest examples.

Utah_Saint · 10-14-2014, 12:50 PM

I thought it was a given that SJB was going to be a project when we drafted him. He had the physical ability but lacked NFL technique.

(I could be misremembering things)

Danno · 10-14-2014, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I thought it was a given that SJB was going to be a project when we drafted him. He had the physical ability but lacked NFL technique.

(I could be misremembering things)

Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.

blackangold · 10-14-2014, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Not to be rude, but how would you know? Have you been going to practices and in meetings or is that just an unproven opinion?

Yes, I have been at every practice and every meeting.

I have the inside info.

FYI Payton gave the games away early. It is all part of his plan, just wait and see.

Utah_Saint · 10-14-2014, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.

Maybe when the Saints get way up on somebody they'll put him in. Hasn't been much opportunity for that so far.

hagan714 · 10-14-2014, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

But are SJB and Powell busts?

hard to say about SJB. we knew how raw he was.
Powell is all about injuries IMO. well at least i hope that is it. i hope it is not an inability to grasp the playbook

If both do not cut it that is grounds to lock Ryan out of the office on draft day or show him the door

my greatest fear on defense was we were drafting based on upside way to much not so much can the kid stay on the field and can he play football.

these two i can play the wait and see game. but they need to see the field and get some playing time under their belt.

AllSaints · 10-14-2014, 09:49 PM

I would start PT the screen game will be crucial this week .... But Reggie will get a td for sure

ScottF · 10-14-2014, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.

a couple of weeks (maybe 3) he hasn't even been active, meaning we've gone with 4 corners

TheGambler · 10-14-2014, 10:45 PM

Didn't read the article......but just the title alone is sorta funny.

As if that should be earth-shattering news.

The Saints, who haven't won a regular season road game since Macy's was getting ready for a parade last year, going on the road to Detroit.....a team with 2 more wins than the Saints............and yet it's somehow news that the Saints would be underdogs.

To be honest, I think it's disrespectful that Detroit isn't even getting the full 3 point HFA line, last I checked (-2 or - 2 1/2, depending on where you look).

However....Saints will win this one. This is one of those "S--- or get off the pot" moments in the season. They have a brutal schedule going forward, and still have yet to win a road game.....this just sorta seems like the week. I'd hate to see what 2-4 looks like with that stretch of games they're about to have.

SloMotion · 10-15-2014, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by TheGambler

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To be honest, I think it's disrespectful that Detroit isn't even getting the full 3 point HFA line, last I checked (-2 or - 2 1/2, depending on where you look).

However....Saints will win this one. This is one of those "S--- or get off the pot" moments in the season. They have a brutal schedule going forward, and still have yet to win a road game.....this just sorta seems like the week. I'd hate to see what 2-4 looks like with that stretch of games they're about to have.

Exactly. Not necessarily disrespectful, but maybe more indicative of exactly where the Lions are at this season ... their early success can be mostly attributed to weak opponents ... we've this before with other teams as well.

This is a very winnable game for the Saints. If I had a nickel for every time the Lions lost a game they shoulda' won (and they should win this one if we are to believe the hype) in front of the home crowd, I'd be owning the Lions franchise right about now,

... bet.

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10-14-2014, 12:50 PM	#42
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions I thought it was a given that SJB was going to be a project when we drafted him. He had the physical ability but lacked NFL technique. (I could be misremembering things)

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I thought it was a given that SJB was going to be a project when we drafted him. He had the physical ability but lacked NFL technique. (I could be misremembering things) Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.

10-14-2014, 01:15 PM	#44
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Not to be rude, but how would you know? Have you been going to practices and in meetings or is that just an unproven opinion? Yes, I have been at every practice and every meeting. I have the inside info. FYI Payton gave the games away early. It is all part of his plan, just wait and see.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Originally Posted by Danno Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages. Maybe when the Saints get way up on somebody they'll put him in. Hasn't been much opportunity for that so far.

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10-14-2014, 05:14 PM	#46
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Originally Posted by Danno But are SJB and Powell busts? hard to say about SJB. we knew how raw he was. Powell is all about injuries IMO. well at least i hope that is it. i hope it is not an inability to grasp the playbook If both do not cut it that is grounds to lock Ryan out of the office on draft day or show him the door my greatest fear on defense was we were drafting based on upside way to much not so much can the kid stay on the field and can he play football. these two i can play the wait and see game. but they need to see the field and get some playing time under their belt.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Originally Posted by Danno Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages. a couple of weeks (maybe 3) he hasn't even been active, meaning we've gone with 4 corners

10-14-2014, 10:45 PM	#49
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Didn't read the article......but just the title alone is sorta funny. As if that should be earth-shattering news. The Saints, who haven't won a regular season road game since Macy's was getting ready for a parade last year, going on the road to Detroit.....a team with 2 more wins than the Saints............and yet it's somehow news that the Saints would be underdogs. To be honest, I think it's disrespectful that Detroit isn't even getting the full 3 point HFA line, last I checked (-2 or - 2 1/2, depending on where you look). However....Saints will win this one. This is one of those "S--- or get off the pot" moments in the season. They have a brutal schedule going forward, and still have yet to win a road game.....this just sorta seems like the week. I'd hate to see what 2-4 looks like with that stretch of games they're about to have. SloMotion likes this.
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10-15-2014, 06:11 AM	#50
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: New Orleans Saints open as underdog against Detroit Lions Originally Posted by TheGambler ... To be honest, I think it's disrespectful that Detroit isn't even getting the full 3 point HFA line, last I checked (-2 or - 2 1/2, depending on where you look). However....Saints will win this one. This is one of those "S--- or get off the pot" moments in the season. They have a brutal schedule going forward, and still have yet to win a road game.....this just sorta seems like the week. I'd hate to see what 2-4 looks like with that stretch of games they're about to have. Exactly. Not necessarily disrespectful, but maybe more indicative of exactly where the Lions are at this season ... their early success can be mostly attributed to weak opponents ... we've this before with other teams as well. This is a very winnable game for the Saints. If I had a nickel for every time the Lions lost a game they shoulda' won (and they should win this one if we are to believe the hype) in front of the home crowd, I'd be owning the Lions franchise right about now, ... bet.

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