Position Spotlight: Secondary

NOLA54 · 10-15-2014, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The defense as a whole, including the coaching, gets a F. The Saints have some talent. It's not showing up on Sundays. I think they're thinking too much instead of keeping it simple and playing. The zone scheme isn't working. Players not fitting the scheme and certainly not executing it. Lewis is a solid #2 CB in the NFL. White is average at best. Dixon brings energy and effort. If the game ever slows down for him, he has the potential to be a solid #2. I loved Baptiste and wanted the Saints to draft him. For whatever reason, the staff does not think he's ready. Vaccaro is a playmaker. The staff allowed him and put him in position to make plays last year. This year they're asking him to play zone. Simply not his strength. Bush is a high effort over-acheiver. Nothing special. The only guy to make plays in the preseason, and one of the smartest guys on the team, Sunseri, is only seeing the field on special teams. I don't get it. He needs to assume Vaccaro's role last year or be playing safety and letting Vaccaro resume his assignments from last year. He needs to be on the field.

Let everyone play what they are good at. If they are not good at anything sit 'em.

K Major · 10-15-2014, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/sta...79760060846080

No surprise to read this. I just stated in another post that Kenny V needs to develop at one role, not multiple. The Big Lebowski has KV wearing too many hats and its not working.

hagan714 · 10-16-2014, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

In the box safety... reference Troy Polamalu.

you need great FS play and solid LB play in pass coverage to get away with this move. what he wants and what is best for the team might not be the same thing. IMO it is not

he started the season off in a more traditional SS role and we all saw how well that was working out.

I would not mind take some lumps and bumps along the way as he adjusted to the roll, if and ONLY IF he had the supporting cast. right now i do not see it.

Rob kept 6 safeties and so far not one has stepped up and showed they can do Byrds job at a serviceable level. thumbs up Rob looks like you kept a bunch of SS and released the only UDFA FS backup we had in camp. man some one needs to step up. so far this is a money pit of a position. If the draft happened today I would rank all the back ups as replaceable.

so moving Kenny to a traditional SS position at this time will only amplifies FS, CB and LB play or lack of in pass coverage.

So wish all you want I do not see the supporting cast at this point. some players in the second level really need to step up their game. Same excuse that works for Byrd works here

Like so many positions on defense we need people to gut check and step up.

Rugby Saint II · 10-16-2014, 05:49 PM

Wesley McGriff came in last year and did a good job I thought....but if Dennis Allen is available I would bring him back at almost all cost.

brees84 · 10-20-2014, 12:29 PM

back to back weeks, perfect rating against him

10-15-2014, 08:38 PM	#21
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by Cruize The defense as a whole, including the coaching, gets a F. The Saints have some talent. It's not showing up on Sundays. I think they're thinking too much instead of keeping it simple and playing. The zone scheme isn't working. Players not fitting the scheme and certainly not executing it. Lewis is a solid #2 CB in the NFL. White is average at best. Dixon brings energy and effort. If the game ever slows down for him, he has the potential to be a solid #2. I loved Baptiste and wanted the Saints to draft him. For whatever reason, the staff does not think he's ready. Vaccaro is a playmaker. The staff allowed him and put him in position to make plays last year. This year they're asking him to play zone. Simply not his strength. Bush is a high effort over-acheiver. Nothing special. The only guy to make plays in the preseason, and one of the smartest guys on the team, Sunseri, is only seeing the field on special teams. I don't get it. He needs to assume Vaccaro's role last year or be playing safety and letting Vaccaro resume his assignments from last year. He needs to be on the field. Let everyone play what they are good at. If they are not good at anything sit 'em.

10-15-2014, 09:31 PM	#22
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by brees84 https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/sta...79760060846080 No surprise to read this. I just stated in another post that Kenny V needs to develop at one role, not multiple. The Big Lebowski has KV wearing too many hats and its not working.

10-16-2014, 06:04 AM	#23
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by Danno In the box safety... reference Troy Polamalu. you need great FS play and solid LB play in pass coverage to get away with this move. what he wants and what is best for the team might not be the same thing. IMO it is not he started the season off in a more traditional SS role and we all saw how well that was working out. I would not mind take some lumps and bumps along the way as he adjusted to the roll, if and ONLY IF he had the supporting cast. right now i do not see it. Rob kept 6 safeties and so far not one has stepped up and showed they can do Byrds job at a serviceable level. thumbs up Rob looks like you kept a bunch of SS and released the only UDFA FS backup we had in camp. man some one needs to step up. so far this is a money pit of a position. If the draft happened today I would rank all the back ups as replaceable. so moving Kenny to a traditional SS position at this time will only amplifies FS, CB and LB play or lack of in pass coverage. So wish all you want I do not see the supporting cast at this point. some players in the second level really need to step up their game. Same excuse that works for Byrd works here Like so many positions on defense we need people to gut check and step up.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 10-16-2014 at 06:13 AM..

10-16-2014, 05:49 PM	#24
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Wesley McGriff came in last year and did a good job I thought....but if Dennis Allen is available I would bring him back at almost all cost.

10-20-2014, 12:29 PM	#25
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