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Just seen the replay, you can say CW missed the tackle but KL & KV was out ran which still means only one missed tackle

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Why argue? Does it really matter, yeesh! The play and game's over, on to the next one

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I just saw it too, good gawd Vaccaro looks O-lineman slow. White was inches from making a great play.

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Speed is needed back there for sure, we need a sub 4.5 at safety.

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we need speed at LB dramatically too! Lofton had a good game, but Hawthorne could use a replacement...

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i could not use the term fast for a defense as whole.

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I'd almost like to see them get a coordinator who favors the 4-3. Build a nasty fast defense like the 'Hawks have in the LB core

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Kids, don't post drunk. This could happen to you.

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hard to do with the personnel we have. you need to rotate your DL big time and we have trouble doing that in a 34, those guys are on the field way too much. which is a huge factor to our play at the end of games. Our DL can not wear teams down.

we just do not have the quality of depth to pull it off. the saints did not have the DL depth as a priority in the off season.

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We play more 4-3 than we do 3-4 anyway. Galette isn't a stand up OLB.

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And the coach has inactivated NT Jenkins for some foolish reason. Now that Bunkley is hurt, lets hope SP's hurt feelings over Jenkins weight/effort/whatever will take the backseat it should and allow the young 'un to play.

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Brees was 38-45 for 362 yards. 2tds and 1int. That's a pretty good game. This whole team let the fans down, not Drew.

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And whoever calls the plays helped him. Whatever happened to running the ball and the clock (especially if you've a 2 TD lead)? No way Brees should've been throwing over 40 times (again). Run the darn ball!

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What do you mean? Jenkins was active today... substituted in and out and then became the #1 when Bunkley was out with the concussion...

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I actually think that Lofton played great in this game. He had some nice tackles and stops when he was in coverage. We coul'd use better but he was one of the bright spots today on D.

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John Jenkins had one tackle for loss but he took on double and some times triple teams all game long. some thing that has been missing. I think his play made a big impact on the saints DL play today. huge improvement against the run in between the tackles.

oh yeah 1 PD also

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we need depth and talent so we can freaking rotate players through out the game to keep people fresh. It is hard to judge players when they are on the field some 90% of the time. our starters log to much time on the field especially up front. the saints have down a poor job of getting quality back ups on this team. so raging players seems pointless when they are run into the ground game after game.

but i am getting tired of saying that year after year.

can anyone on the defense be upgraded? sure. there are only a couple that are truly keepers long term. given the facts stated above.

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I don't always defend Drew. I simply call it as I see it.

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Balance has always been a concern of mine under the Sean Payton era.

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Drew was killing the Lions all day. Meanwhile the run game averaged less than 2yds per attempt.

Run the ball???

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Well if we had run the ball all game we certainly would not have blown a 13 point lead.:p

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Remember, stats don't matter too him...

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...58_306x423.jpg.

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Our last score (FG) : We run the damn ball and wasted great chance to kill DET with another TD. 2 unsuccessful runs in the row right before FG. Strange, because we were basically unstoppable in passing game. We played not to lose and once again got burned.

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Thank you. Seriously thinking about ignoring the bear. Soon.

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http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...3r52o1_500.jpg.

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Yep interception was a bad decision and his fault but you also have to credit the Lions D for that pick. One thing I didn't see are those stupid ASS pitches he makes when he's going down trying to avoid the sack and get something going. He is horrible about that but you could tell yesterday he was making a conscious effort to NOT do that.
As for him being paid, his contract was just as much for what he has already done by helping us get to a SB than what he is going to do in the future.
We have always had a high risk high reward type offense and now age and the talent level of a lot of our players are making it difficult for us to continue that with winning results.

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some adults realize that any given team can win on any given sunday.

most adults can't qualify to play or coach. most would be crushed on the field in one play. there would be no NFL if the average guy was on any given team. think of it as roger goodell going out for a pass.

what is very common is for average human beings to judge NFL teams, coaches and players. that is akin to telling a pilot how to fly a plane when you don't have a license. those opinions don't amount to a pile of diddleysquat in a hurricane.

no one player can be faulted. it is a team sport. there are many instances in every game, every weekend that "one guy" messes up, but they can't really be faulted. look at all the good **** they do.

none of us can, or have... fought with a team through a NFL season much less have any of us won a super bowl. we can't really relate to what they experience.

we don't all think the same.

i don't tell pilots how to fly a plane but i'll tell fans they're not qualified to judge a pilot.

two dat.

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Effort was good yesterday. Execution was bad in key moments. Refs were horrible. KRob had 3 plays in the first half. A hard run for a first down. A hard run and fumble. And a pass play. Ridiculous. Feed the hot guy. I know Detroits run defense is good. But, you have to make them play the run. You have to make the DLine come off blocks and tackle. You have to not let them just pin their ears back and rush every play. You have to make the LB's flow and tackle. Not just blitz or drop back. You have to make the safties look in the backfield and come up closer to the line. Not just immediately drop in coverage. The Saints need to set up the pass with the run. Payton does not and apparantly never will get this. I understand everyone's disappointment in the Brees pick. He's great. But, he's asked to do TOO much. He shouldn't have it ALL on his shoulders. That's Payton's fault. The Cowboys and and their coach get it. Run the ball. Run to set up the pass. Run the ball and keep a less than talented defense off the field as much as possible. Don't be so predictable and put your talented QB in better positions to make plays. The good news is these things can be improved/fixed and with the NFC not going through Seattle, and playing in a horrible division, the door is still WIDE OPEN.

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It seems the Saints team is contrary this season. So contrary that it is addling the brains of Who Dats.
We see that the passing game is working really well, but we go into meltdown for rushing plays when rushing plays up to that stage of the game has stagnated the offense.
It is not the type of play, on offense or defense, that is killing us. It is the execution and errors.
The game is very different if Corey White just get his hands on the pass to Tate, if Drew Brees throws the ball out of bounds when under pressure, etc.

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The defense really gave up one TD. The PI call on Bush was BS. The short field on the last drive was fuled by the pick.

It just sucks that the team plays decent ball for 56 minutes and then craps out down the stretch.

It's time to start wondering if any Saints 4th quarter lead is safe. To be 2-3 after leading in the 4th quarter is distressing.

SFIAH

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Man, Brees did "killed" us with that interception. He also "saved" us with that throw for the Stills. He also "killed" us with (drop in another play). He also "saved" us on the 3rd down rush.
Ad nauseum.

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Brees was 2 -7, after he threw that pick he just completely fell apart. He had that look on his face that said he was done for the day. When he gets that weird look in his eyes, you know the game is over.

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I thought the defense for the most part came to play and had a good week of preparation. We need to learn how to finish/destroy teams when we have a lead.

Did anyone notice how Denver kept their foot on the throat of San Fran last night?. They never let up even when up by two TDs. If we can do this moving forward, we will be fine.

Time to focus on Green Bay.

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the guys better be pissed
the guys better come out with passion and a sense of desperation at home against Green Bay

Colston didn't even try to come back to that ball and catch or knock it out

unacceptable

Re: Brees killed us with his INT
 

They started running the football and slowing down when it was 35:10. Till then it was all about fast tempo and Peyton's passing game.