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4everSaint 10-19-2014 05:26 PM

Brees killed us with his INT
 
There were all kinds of banana skins flying from the refs today. But his INT really killed us. Not hating on the man. Just saying. Things changed after that. Quickly.

dizzle88 10-19-2014 05:30 PM

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Another week
Another back breaking pick thrown

The only difference about this loss is I don't know who deserves the blame more, The defense for allowing the long TD or brees throwing that pick 4 plays later

Entire team is an embarrassment.

Jankman8 10-19-2014 05:31 PM

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The Golden Tate TD killed us... after that the homecrowd was back in the game, the Detroit Dline put some pressure on Brees and yes you were right he forced a stupid pass. BUT he played a terrific game up until then. No way the Gate TD should have been a first down, and of course not a TD

dizzle88 10-19-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jankman8 (Post 619630)
The Golden Tate TD killed us... after that the homecrowd was back in the game, the Detroit Dline put some pressure on Brees and yes you were right he forced a stupid pass. BUT he played a terrific game up until then. No way the Gate TD should have been a first down, and of course not a TD

Corey white and Kenny Vaccaro don't deserve to be paid after messing up that badly.

Foot Stomper 10-19-2014 05:37 PM

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Yup. Again he kills us with the bone headed play. We are stuck with an aging/old $100M pick machine. Good think he punched his HOF ticket earlier since he is not adding to the HOF credentials at this point. Not even sure he is a top 10 QB anymore.

As for the long TD. Sure that got the crowd back in it but we play into it by not running out some of the clock. You don't throw a pick in that instance. Take the sack and punt it and make them play a long field. A highschool QB knows this but our HOF QB seems to have forgotten it.

Danno 10-19-2014 05:37 PM

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I can name 10 players who "cost us" the game today.

Its not all Drew's fault, not even close.

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 619635)
Its not all Drew's fault, not even close.

C'mon you know we should cut him, take a huge cap hit, destroy the rest of the team to compensate for that huge hit, fight through more cap hits to better this team... /sarcasm :rolleyes:

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 05:43 PM

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Why make another thread to whine? If you don't like the saints go whine somewhere else. A lot of you fans need to go to Atlanta, if you couldn't see that officiating cause the result of the game then you need to watch your intake on alcohol, the pi against bush wasn't the only bad call but the one on the rookie, the non calls on lions defense, the roughing the qb on 3rd down by cam. This game was total bs. If I am going to be critical and down my team, I am datum well going to stand up for them when it was obvious they were cheated. You people who blaming Bree or the coaching staff, I just want to know when have you seen the perfect game? Mistake gonna be made, but a great team overcome them, but how do you suppose to overcome them if the officials are against you? REAL SAINTS FAN STAND UP!!!!

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 05:50 PM

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For you whiners:

Payton upset with officiating: Payton was clearly upset with some of the calls in the game. He was seen yelling at officials and admitted afterward, "I wasn't happy with how the game was officiated, but I'll leave it at that." He quickly added that's not why the Saints lost.

4everSaint 10-19-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 619639)
Why make another thread to whine? If you don't like the saints go whine somewhere else. A lot of you fans need to go to Atlanta, if you couldn't see that officiating cause the result of the game then you need to watch your intake on alcohol, the pi against bush wasn't the only bad call but the one on the rookie, the non calls on lions defense, the roughing the qb on 3rd down by cam. This game was total bs. If I am going to be critical and down my team, I am datum well going to stand up for them when it was obvious they were cheated. You people who blaming Bree or the coaching staff, I just want to know when have you seen the perfect game? Mistake gonna be made, but a great team overcome them, but how do you suppose to overcome them if the officials are against you? REAL SAINTS FAN STAND UP!!!!

Last time I checked I have a right to voice my opinion on a forum when I want. Thanks for the advice though.

dizzle88 10-19-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 619639)
Why make another thread to whine? If you don't like the saints go whine somewhere else. A lot of you fans need to go to Atlanta, if you couldn't see that officiating cause the result of the game then you need to watch your intake on alcohol, the pi against bush wasn't the only bad call but the one on the rookie, the non calls on lions defense, the roughing the qb on 3rd down by cam. This game was total bs. If I am going to be critical and down my team, I am datum well going to stand up for them when it was obvious they were cheated. You people who blaming Bree or the coaching staff, I just want to know when have you seen the perfect game? Mistake gonna be made, but a great team overcome them, but how do you suppose to overcome them if the officials are against you? REAL SAINTS FAN STAND UP!!!!

The officials didn't make Golden Tate juke 3 of our players or force Brees to throw a pick

Whilst there were bad calls, we had 23-10 lead and blew it on 2 plays with less than 4 minutes to go, we had still won besides the refs, we killed ourselves by getting lazy.

saintsfan1976 10-19-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 619644)
The officials didn't make Golden Tate juke 3 of our players or force Brees to throw a pick

Whilst there were bad calls, we had 23-10 lead and blew it on 2 plays with less than 4 minutes to go, we had still won besides the refs, we killed ourselves by getting lazy.

Hard to argue this.

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 06:03 PM

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Cause golden made a play warrant the reason we lost the game? Cause Brees throw a interception warrant why we lost? BS, the defense held a penalty gave them new life, offense couldn't move down the field cause they were held and final play PI

Danno 10-19-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 619644)
The officials didn't make Golden Tate juke 3 of our players or force Brees to throw a pick

Whilst there were bad calls, we had 23-10 lead and blew it on 2 plays with less than 4 minutes to go, we had still won besides the refs, we killed ourselves by getting lazy.

Just playing devil's advocate but a close PI on Bush gave them a new set of downs and they scored a TD.

That same PI play happened twice against us on the final drive and wasn't called. All we needed was a FG. It didn't cost us the game, but it damn sure prevented us from winning it.

saintsfan1976 10-19-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 619652)
Just playing devil's advocate but a close PI on Bush gave them a new set of downs and they scored a TD.

That same PI play happened twice against us on the final drive and wasn't called. All we needed was a FG. It didn't cost us the game, but it damn sure prevented us from winning it.

Hard to argue that as well.

Playing devil to the devil's advocate there were calls for us that kept drives alive in the first half, right?

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 619658)
Playing devil to the devil's advocate there were calls for us that kept drives alive in the first half, right?

So what you're saying was that the refs didn't call an even unbiased game at all? :doh:

saintsfan1976 10-19-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619659)
So what you're saying was that the refs didn't call an even unbiased game at all? :doh:

honestly, I'm not sure what i'm saying anymore. On to Green Bay.......

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 619652)
Just playing devil's advocate but a close PI on Bush gave them a new set of downs and they scored a TD.

That same PI play happened twice against us on the final drive and wasn't called. All we needed was a FG. It didn't cost us the game, but it damn sure prevented us from winning it.

OMG, somebody actual under the circumstance. Believe me if the saints lost like any of the other losses I wouldn't say a word but obviously they were cheated and like a true fan I am going stand up for my team instead of whine and point fingers. Believe it or not enough whining will influence the play of some players and coaches and i hope our cry babies fans don't

Saintaintso 10-19-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 619635)
I can name 10 players who "cost us" the game today.

Its not all Drew's fault, not even close.

Wow , so you're telling me if he doesn't throw that pick we still lose ?


We can't blame the defense , after holding the lions offense on the road for nearly 3 quarters to 10 points.

The lions were bound to make an explosive play , but unfortunately this season we were bound to give the ball back via interception with a 4th quarter lead like always. And give them the ball already in scoring range as always. To say this one isn't on Drew is a lie , even he knows it , that's why he said it

saintsfan1976 10-19-2014 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 619666)
Wow , so you're telling me if he doesn't throw that pick we still lose ?


We can't blame the defense , after holding the lions offense on the road for nearly 3 quarters to 10 points.

The lions were bound to make an explosive play , but unfortunately this season we were bound to give the ball back via interception with a 4th quarter lead like always. And give them the ball already in scoring range as always. To say this one isn't on Drew is a lie , even he knows it , that's why he said it

Brees threw one pick. (a critical one)

Corey White, et al missed numerous tackles.

Who do blame more?

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 619666)
Wow , so you're telling me if he doesn't throw that pick we still lose ?


We can't blame the defense , after holding the lions offense on the road for nearly 3 quarters to 10 points.

So you entirely dismiss a 73 yard touchdown pass, where there were at least two missed tackles; so you can try to prove why the loss is entirely Bree's fault?

Wow, that's all I can say :rolleyes:

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 06:26 PM

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Voice opinion is one thing, whine is another and by the way I wasn't referring to you unless you're saying Brees or Payton was the reason we lost

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619669)
So you entirely dismiss a 73 yard touchdown pass, where there were at least two missed tackles; so you can try to prove why the loss is entirely Bree's fault?

Wow, that's all I can say :rolleyes:

One missed tackle, he just out ran the rest

Saintaintso 10-19-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619669)
So you entirely dismiss a 73 yard touchdown pass, where there were at least two missed tackles; so you can try to prove why the loss is entirely Bree's fault?

Wow, that's all I can say :rolleyes:

No I don't dismiss it but I can accept it , that was the same golden Tate doing the Broncos wrong in the Super Bowl don't forget !

Regardless we still had the lead , that big play didn't end the game at all. They STILL needed a touchdown to go up. And Brees made sure that happened for them.

The lions at home in scoring range needing 7 refs on their side , momentum from the pick , we never gave our defense a chance.

For the record vaccarros pick should've been the nail in the coffin.

How can folks still defend this mans play ? We were up in the fourth with the ball , no excuse !!!

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 619678)
One missed tackle, he just out ran the rest

Corey White whiffed on his attempt, Vaccaro missed his and then he outran Keenan Lewis

westbankdaze 10-19-2014 06:31 PM

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Brees just cannot perform under pressure on the road. He is the most frustrating thing to watch on road games. He won't be getting any better here on out.

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 619679)
How can folks still defend this mans play ? We were up in the fourth with the ball , no excuse !!!

342 yards, 2 touchdowns...

defense gave up two touchdowns in the final 4 minutes... but go ahead and whine about Drew some more

Saintaintso 10-19-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619684)
342 yards, 2 touchdowns...

defense gave up two touchdowns in the final 4 minutes... but go ahead and whine about Drew some more

I don't have to he said it himself , do you need a link ?

Oh and btw , that last TD was on Brees , I mean the defense didn't put themselves there did they ?

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 619685)
I don't have to he said it himself , do you need a link ?

That's what the leader does; just like the defense saying they were the reason; do you need a link?

And I have a question, would we be better off with say Ryan Griffin or McCown under center rather than Drew? *waits*

halloween 65 10-19-2014 06:39 PM

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We blew it plain and simple on both sides of the ball, no excuses. We did not close out a game we had at hand. A ripple effect.

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619680)
Corey White whiffed on his attempt, Vaccaro missed his and then he outran Keenan Lewis

Corey white went for the ball not the tackle

Saintaintso 10-19-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619687)
That's what the leader does; just like the defense saying they were the reason; do you need a link?

And I have a question, would we be better off with say Ryan Griffin or McCown under center rather than Drew? *waits*

On the road give me griffin any day ....

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 619689)
Corey white went for the ball not the tackle

after he went to the ground he whiffed on his attempt at a shoe-string tackle; I'm sitting here watching the replay as we speak...

pherein 10-19-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 619626)
There were all kinds of banana skins flying from the refs today. But his INT really killed us. Not hating on the man. Just saying. Things changed after that. Quickly.

yep Brees lost the game, again.

Saintaintso 10-19-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619691)
after he went to the ground he whiffed on his attempt at a shoe-string tackle; I'm sitting here watching the replay as we speak...

Can you count , we still had the lead after that !!! That wasn't the game winner !!!

WHODATINCA 10-19-2014 06:42 PM

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A single player cannot win a game or lose a game by himself. This was a team loss. No point in trying to blame any single player or players.

Some here need to calm down.

|Mitch| 10-19-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 619690)
On the road give me griffin any day ....

You've never seen him in the game against anyone other than 2nd/3rd string, but good try...

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 619688)
We blew it plain and simple on both sides of the ball, no excuses. We did not close out a game we had at hand. A ripple effect.

We didn't blow nothing, the officials blew it when they call PI on bush on 4th down

pherein 10-19-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 619694)
A single player cannot win a game or lose a game by himself. This was a team loss. No point in trying to blame any single player or players.

Some here need to calm down.

not true, the QB is the single most important player. SB prove that. Even if teams like SF have the #1 defence, they still lose because of QB play. No great defence can deal with a QB throwing a pick in the last 5 minutes and putting them on the 30.

WHODATINCA 10-19-2014 06:45 PM

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It was a tough loss for sure. But, we didn't finish. That is on the team. Either side of the ball had a chance to win this one in the second half. Neither did.

As I said before this game, it will turn on O-line play. Their front 4 almost completely shut down our run game. Then, they started going after Drew. Recipe for all our disasters.

The good news is: the D started to look like last year's D. :-)


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