Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception

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I have personally been a staunch supporter and at times defender of Brees' play over the years, because I believe that quarterbacks, although they get the lion share of the praise when things go well, also get unfairly criticized when things go south. Yes, Brees isn't what he used to be physically, but there are plenty of strong-armed quarterbacks riding the pine in the NFL, selling insurance in a strip mall or working a nine-to-five job to earn a hard living like you and me.

Where Brees has made his mark in the NFL despite being a diminutive quarterback who has always possessed an average arm, is with his smarts and his accuracy. But the smarts come first: make a good decision then fit the ball in the window you've diagnosed to be the best to throw into.

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dizzle88 · 10-22-2014, 01:33 PM

Can't really argue with anything in that article

Brees has been making decisions that a rookie QB would be annoyed at.

Something is really wrong, Brees used to be one of the best QB's when the pocket would break down because of his awareness, now he just starts panicking and lobbing the ball anywhere.

Brees also used to be the best QB in the league when teams would send pressure, now he's statistically the worst.

dizzle88 · 10-22-2014, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

for me the problem isnt necessary drew. i feel now teams expect us to pass 85-90% of the times vs running the ball. its easier to put pressure on drew when you play 7 and sometimes 8 db's and the ol cant protect him like they once were against a four man front. so think about this you rush four and can get pressure on drew, play 7 or 8 men to cover our wr's and te's you even have a lb on our rb coming out of the backfield. so our passing attack isnt much of an attack at all. now if we start running robinson, ingram, even cadet and they start producing these 100 yrds backs i assure you things will get better for drew and our offense. i cant stress this enough. unless d murray of the cowboys get hurt, we will be watching them in the sb! again i said doesnt get hurt.

Besides the Detroit game, we've ran for over 120 yards each week
We are 6th in the league in rushing, I don't think the running game is our issue
It might be an issue if Brees if checking out of plays when we should be running the ball because he wants to pass.

Danno · 10-22-2014, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

for me the problem isnt necessary drew. i feel now teams expect us to pass 85-90% of the times vs running the ball. its easier to put pressure on drew when you play 7 and sometimes 8 db's and the ol cant protect him like they once were against a four man front. so think about this you rush four and can get pressure on drew, play 7 or 8 men to cover our wr's and te's you even have a lb on our rb coming out of the backfield. so our passing attack isnt much of an attack at all. now if we start running robinson, ingram, even cadet and they start producing these 100 yrds backs i assure you things will get better for drew and our offense. i cant stress this enough. unless d murray of the cowboys get hurt, we will be watching them in the sb! again i said doesnt get hurt.

We pass 63.7% of the time, not 85-90, but yes, we should run more. A nice 60/40 mix would be fine with me.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2014, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We pass 63.7% of the time, not 85-90, but yes, we should run more. A nice 60/40 mix would be fine with me.

If we're passing 63.7% of the time, we're right there are your 60/40... That ratio will fluctuate game to game, regardless...

Papa Voodoo · 10-22-2014, 03:05 PM

Something has been off with the whole team this year. It's not just Drew. They do look to be getting better. Drew was doing exceptionally well in the DET game until that 3rd and 9 INT.

I would venture to say that as a whole, the NFL is having a down year.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2014, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 or 3 that the key to us winning this season is running the football.

Looks like we are running well enough, especially in the first 2 games... All points to defense as the problem...
Week #1 = 139 rush yards
Week #2 = 174 rush yards
Week #3 = 108 rush yards
Week #4 = 108 rush yards
Week #5 = 140 rush yards
Week #6 = Bye
Week #7 = 73 rush yards

dizzle88 · 10-22-2014, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 !

No need to try and correct anyone because Mitch has posted the evidence.

Utah_Saint · 10-22-2014, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

im gonna say this till the season ends. if d murray stays healthy, dallas will go to the super bowl, why, because they are effectively running the football. so, now when t nomo goes to the line he sees a lot of one on one coverage vs dez and his other wr options so completing passes are pretty much easy. also even when the opposing teams' defense get pressure to t nomo he buys time by getting out of the pocket something i dont see drew doing a lot of. as i said before i know we all like the deep passes and seeing big plays, but the key element to winning football is still effectively running the ball. as i said before if d murray of the cowgirls stay healthy, they will be adding another sb champion to their banner.

And obviously the boys will be playing the Chiefs or the Jets in the Super Bowl because they're the two best AFC teams at running the ball effectively.

|Mitch| · 10-22-2014, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

ah yes, and if you notice its not 120 yrds every game.

We missed running 120 yards every week by 12 yards in two games, not including the Lions game...

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 or 3 that the key to us winning this season is running the football.

And in week 2, we had ran for 139 and 174 yards; but I guess the NFL's official stats are misleading though

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 ! No need to try and correct anyone because Mitch has posted the evidence.

10-22-2014, 03:27 PM	#9
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx im gonna say this till the season ends. if d murray stays healthy, dallas will go to the super bowl, why, because they are effectively running the football. so, now when t nomo goes to the line he sees a lot of one on one coverage vs dez and his other wr options so completing passes are pretty much easy. also even when the opposing teams' defense get pressure to t nomo he buys time by getting out of the pocket something i dont see drew doing a lot of. as i said before i know we all like the deep passes and seeing big plays, but the key element to winning football is still effectively running the ball. as i said before if d murray of the cowgirls stay healthy, they will be adding another sb champion to their banner. And obviously the boys will be playing the Chiefs or the Jets in the Super Bowl because they're the two best AFC teams at running the ball effectively.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx ah yes, and if you notice its not 120 yrds every game. We missed running 120 yards every week by 12 yards in two games, not including the Lions game... Originally Posted by teddybarexxx okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 or 3 that the key to us winning this season is running the football. And in week 2, we had ran for 139 and 174 yards; but I guess the NFL's official stats are misleading though dizzle88 likes this.

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Threaded by QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985 Rating: (0 votes - average) I have personally been a staunch supporter and at times defender of Brees' play over the years, because I believe that quarterbacks, although they get the lion share of the praise when things go well, also get unfairly criticized when things go south. Yes, Brees isn't what he used to be physically, but there are plenty of strong-armed quarterbacks riding the pine in the NFL, selling insurance in a strip mall or working a nine-to-five job to earn a hard living like you and me. Where Brees has made his mark in the NFL despite being a diminutive quarterback who has always possessed an average arm, is with his smarts and his accuracy. But the smarts come first: make a good decision then fit the ball in the window you've diagnosed to be the best to throw into. Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception - Canal Street Chronicles Attached Thumbnails
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10-22-2014, 01:33 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Can't really argue with anything in that article Brees has been making decisions that a rookie QB would be annoyed at. Something is really wrong, Brees used to be one of the best QB's when the pocket would break down because of his awareness, now he just starts panicking and lobbing the ball anywhere. Brees also used to be the best QB in the league when teams would send pressure, now he's statistically the worst. AlaskaSaints likes this.

10-22-2014, 02:51 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx for me the problem isnt necessary drew. i feel now teams expect us to pass 85-90% of the times vs running the ball. its easier to put pressure on drew when you play 7 and sometimes 8 db's and the ol cant protect him like they once were against a four man front. so think about this you rush four and can get pressure on drew, play 7 or 8 men to cover our wr's and te's you even have a lb on our rb coming out of the backfield. so our passing attack isnt much of an attack at all. now if we start running robinson, ingram, even cadet and they start producing these 100 yrds backs i assure you things will get better for drew and our offense. i cant stress this enough. unless d murray of the cowboys get hurt, we will be watching them in the sb! again i said doesnt get hurt. Besides the Detroit game, we've ran for over 120 yards each week We are 6th in the league in rushing, I don't think the running game is our issue It might be an issue if Brees if checking out of plays when we should be running the ball because he wants to pass.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx for me the problem isnt necessary drew. i feel now teams expect us to pass 85-90% of the times vs running the ball. its easier to put pressure on drew when you play 7 and sometimes 8 db's and the ol cant protect him like they once were against a four man front. so think about this you rush four and can get pressure on drew, play 7 or 8 men to cover our wr's and te's you even have a lb on our rb coming out of the backfield. so our passing attack isnt much of an attack at all. now if we start running robinson, ingram, even cadet and they start producing these 100 yrds backs i assure you things will get better for drew and our offense. i cant stress this enough. unless d murray of the cowboys get hurt, we will be watching them in the sb! again i said doesnt get hurt. We pass 63.7% of the time, not 85-90, but yes, we should run more. A nice 60/40 mix would be fine with me. MarchingOn likes this.

10-22-2014, 03:00 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by Danno We pass 63.7% of the time, not 85-90, but yes, we should run more. A nice 60/40 mix would be fine with me. If we're passing 63.7% of the time, we're right there are your 60/40... That ratio will fluctuate game to game, regardless...

10-22-2014, 03:05 PM	#6
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Something has been off with the whole team this year. It's not just Drew. They do look to be getting better. Drew was doing exceptionally well in the DET game until that 3rd and 9 INT. I would venture to say that as a whole, the NFL is having a down year. Danno and captainshawn like this.

10-22-2014, 03:13 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Drew Brees and the Art of the Untimely Interception Originally Posted by teddybarexxx okay let me correct you, no we didnt run over 120 yards every week! you know how i know is because i was stating this back in week 2 or 3 that the key to us winning this season is running the football. Looks like we are running well enough, especially in the first 2 games... All points to defense as the problem... Week #1 = 139 rush yards Week #2 = 174 rush yards Week #3 = 108 rush yards Week #4 = 108 rush yards Week #5 = 140 rush yards Week #6 = Bye Week #7 = 73 rush yards jnormand, Danno and dizzle88 like this.