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papz 10-27-2014 12:54 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
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Originally Posted by xan (Post 621207)
The Carolina D got lucky because Wilson had a whole bunch of unforced miscues.

I kinda like our chances. But, we are on the road, so no. Don't like anything about our chances.
It was like Seattle was doing everything in their power to hand Carolina the win. That game shouldn't have been remotely close.

SaintFanInATLHELL 10-27-2014 12:56 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
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Originally Posted by RiverSaint (Post 621319)
If we play defense like we did last night newton is gonna eat us alive himself. Cover man to man with no blitz at all if you want cam is gonna take off.
Yesterday wasn't a man scheme. It was a 2-deep zone shell with man underneath. Definitely a bend, don't break defense designed to keep the ball in front of the defenders.

As for the rush, it was a "mush rush" designed to keep Rogers contained in the pocket so as to limit the scramble drill.

For the most part it worked.

Exactly the same should be used for Newton. He's dangerous when he's out of the pocket. Keep him in the pocket and make him throw the ball.

Rush him and he escapes is bad news. Pressure should be in the pocket.

SFIAH

Danno 10-27-2014 01:13 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 621322)
Yesterday wasn't a man scheme. It was a 2-deep zone shell with man underneath. Definitely a bend, don't break defense designed to keep the ball in front of the defenders.

As for the rush, it was a "mush rush" designed to keep Rogers contained in the pocket so as to limit the scramble drill.

For the most part it worked.

Exactly the same should be used for Newton. He's dangerous when he's out of the pocket. Keep him in the pocket and make him throw the ball.

Rush him and he escapes is bad news. Pressure should be in the pocket.

SFIAH
I read where Ryan was subbing a lot on their side of the 50, but when the Packers crossed the 50 he stayed with the primary starters for max effect.

If true, I kinda like that philosophy.

RiverSaint 10-27-2014 01:52 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
I hope you guys are right all I'm saying is this only 4 guys to beat while everyone is out manning up on receivers an safety's in deep zones. Odds are cams gonna take off not sit and wait untill someone's open and give time for pressure to get to him in pocket. Works with Rogers because he's not a runner but cam can outrun 4 fat guys.

|Mitch| 10-27-2014 02:14 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
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Originally Posted by RiverSaint (Post 621333)
I hope you guys are right all I'm saying is this only 4 guys to beat while everyone is out manning up on receivers an safety's in deep zones. Odds are cams gonna take off not sit and wait untill someone's open and give time for pressure to get to him in pocket. Works with Rogers because he's not a runner but cam can outrun 4 fat guys.
But Cam can't throw like Rodgers either... We'll be able to play our safeties closer to the line

ScottF 10-27-2014 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 621323)
he's gonna try to beat us with his legs and athletism anyways....wait a minute, that's what cam does. what i say is always keep a spy on him no matter what. i dont think our defense has to do too much of anything differently than what we did last night.
good in theory, but we don't have anyone remotely quick enough to shadow him, and I really wouldn't trust KV in that role

jnormand 10-27-2014 03:01 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
I actually liked our defense in the second half. 2 deep safety with the corners playing man to man inside. It was great. Aaron Rodgers got smoked in the second half. Problem was he threw for almost 300 in the first half. Lol. Wowza.

ScottF 10-27-2014 03:05 PM
Re: Must Win, part 4
 
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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 621346)
yeah, but hey we gotta do something to slow him down. one person say play our safeties up close(?) something. i just dont want to see him running around causing havoc.
Maybe we went vanilla last night because we plan on showing a lot of different looks on Thursday. Hopefully we at least have guys at the line pretending to blitz.
Cam isn't great at reading and reacting, but it can be a positive for him bc a lot of time he makes one read and the just takes off


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