Base D vs Blitzing D

WhoDat2301 · 10-29-2014, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I wanted to reach through the TV and slap Cris Collinsworth Sunday night when he kept talking about Ryan wanting to blitz all the time. He had no clue what he was talking about at all.

He never has a clue about anything. I can't stand to hear him on TV.

lumm0x · 10-28-2014, 02:32 PM

Until our players show they can handle one on one assignments when we pressure we have to stay rushing the 4 down linemen. I find it hard to believe anyone on our D should be having trouble with Ryan's schemes when pretty much everyone was here and either starting or rotating last year. Aside from smatterings of Brian Dixon and Sunseri, no one is really new.

Barry from MS · 10-28-2014, 02:52 PM

White & Robinson playing up on the line of scrimmage seemed to click for both of them. The secondary holding Jordy Nelson to 3 catches for 25 yards is pretty freakin' impressive.

And it looks like Cam Jordan has finally woken up, and that kid Edebali coming in late in the game to get a sack on A-Rod & a strip fumble on Flynn (against the 1st string GB o-line at that) was an awesome sight.

I'll admit I was surprised & cynical when Edebali got one of the roster spots...but I was wrong. I said not too long ago that a rookie(s) need to step up and start making plays. Edebali was certainly NOT on that list, but if this kid's light just came on, we look pretty good with our front 4 pass rusher depth.

halloween 65 · 10-28-2014, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

White & Robinson playing up on the line of scrimmage seemed to click for both of them. The secondary holding Jordy Nelson to 3 catches for 25 yards is pretty freakin' impressive.

And it looks like Cam Jordan has finally woken up, and that kid Edebali coming in late in the game to get a sack on A-Rod & a strip fumble on Flynn (against the 1st string GB o-line at that) was an awesome sight.

I'll admit I was surprised & cynical when Edebali got one of the roster spots...but I was wrong. I said not too long ago that a rookie(s) need to step up and start making plays. Edebali was certainly NOT on that list, but if this kid's light just came on, we look pretty good with our front 4 pass rusher depth.

I noticed Edebali made the most out of his reps. Maybe, just maybe we have something there.

Danno · 10-28-2014, 08:19 PM

Can you guys name 5 color guys better than Collinsworth?

Utah_Saint · 10-28-2014, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Can you guys name 5 color guys better than Collinsworth?

Me

My buddy Ken (he's funny as ****)

This guy

Necessary Roughness - Fumble, fumblaya! - YouTube

My wife (she seems to know everything)

Saintfan (if that water boy thing doesn't work out)

Kate Upton (she's better to look at and has a more masculine voice than Collensworth)

Imagine pre game analysis like this...

Kate Upton Happy Easter Commercial for LOVE Magazine (Peter Cottontail) - YouTube

That's just off the top of my head.

Jack Vegas · 10-29-2014, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Can you guys name 5 color guys better than Collinsworth?

I actually think he's the best color guy out there right now. Which makes it all the more disappointing when he gets things so wrong. He just didn't do his research at all.

Danno · 10-29-2014, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I actually think he's the best color guy out there right now. Which makes it all the more disappointing when he gets things so wrong. He just didn't do his research at all.

I do find it humorous that we now have 2 dozen color commentators that are the worst in the business.

Collinsworth is the best out there, or at least as good as Aikman. I like Gannon a lot too.

xan · 10-28-2014, 09:23 PM

Why stop at 5?

blackangold · 10-28-2014, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Do y'all think staying in this Base D for a while is good for our slow linebackers and young secondary? Our secondary seemed to play better in this base look.

Last night, this Base D with just Front 4 pressure with 7 in pass coverage certainly seemed effective. We got 2 picks of one of the best QB's & receiving corps in the league. We had 4 sacks as well, although 1 was against Flynn.

We did give up 2 HUGE chunk plays of over 60 yards, but sometimes you have to expect that kind of thing against Rodgers & Crew.

But what do y'all think? Stay in Base D & scrap the constant blitzing? We did seem to get plenty of QB pressure with just 4 last night. Of course, DC Ryan's head would explode if he doesn't blitz.

We gave up over 400 yards passing... The only time the D looked good was when Rogers didn't have all year to throw. Pressure is the key in my opinion, how you get the pressure is the problem. If we are rushing 4, that's fine but we need to get home. I wasn't too impressed by the defense, they had good moments but missed tackles and WR/RBs running free was still a problem.

10-29-2014, 08:20 AM	#1
WhoDat2301 WDN Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Travis AFB, CA Posts: 106	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I wanted to reach through the TV and slap Cris Collinsworth Sunday night when he kept talking about Ryan wanting to blitz all the time. He had no clue what he was talking about at all. He never has a clue about anything. I can't stand to hear him on TV.

10-28-2014, 02:32 PM	#2
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Until our players show they can handle one on one assignments when we pressure we have to stay rushing the 4 down linemen. I find it hard to believe anyone on our D should be having trouble with Ryan's schemes when pretty much everyone was here and either starting or rotating last year. Aside from smatterings of Brian Dixon and Sunseri, no one is really new. captainshawn likes this.

10-28-2014, 02:52 PM	#3
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D White & Robinson playing up on the line of scrimmage seemed to click for both of them. The secondary holding Jordy Nelson to 3 catches for 25 yards is pretty freakin' impressive. And it looks like Cam Jordan has finally woken up, and that kid Edebali coming in late in the game to get a sack on A-Rod & a strip fumble on Flynn (against the 1st string GB o-line at that) was an awesome sight. I'll admit I was surprised & cynical when Edebali got one of the roster spots...but I was wrong. I said not too long ago that a rookie(s) need to step up and start making plays. Edebali was certainly NOT on that list, but if this kid's light just came on, we look pretty good with our front 4 pass rusher depth. jeanpierre and blackangold like this.
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10-28-2014, 07:18 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Originally Posted by Barry from MS White & Robinson playing up on the line of scrimmage seemed to click for both of them. The secondary holding Jordy Nelson to 3 catches for 25 yards is pretty freakin' impressive. And it looks like Cam Jordan has finally woken up, and that kid Edebali coming in late in the game to get a sack on A-Rod & a strip fumble on Flynn (against the 1st string GB o-line at that) was an awesome sight. I'll admit I was surprised & cynical when Edebali got one of the roster spots...but I was wrong. I said not too long ago that a rookie(s) need to step up and start making plays. Edebali was certainly NOT on that list, but if this kid's light just came on, we look pretty good with our front 4 pass rusher depth. I noticed Edebali made the most out of his reps. Maybe, just maybe we have something there. K Major likes this.

10-28-2014, 08:19 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Can you guys name 5 color guys better than Collinsworth?

10-29-2014, 12:49 AM	#7
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Originally Posted by Danno Can you guys name 5 color guys better than Collinsworth? I actually think he's the best color guy out there right now. Which makes it all the more disappointing when he gets things so wrong. He just didn't do his research at all.
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10-29-2014, 08:26 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I actually think he's the best color guy out there right now. Which makes it all the more disappointing when he gets things so wrong. He just didn't do his research at all. I do find it humorous that we now have 2 dozen color commentators that are the worst in the business. Collinsworth is the best out there, or at least as good as Aikman. I like Gannon a lot too.

10-28-2014, 09:23 PM	#9
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Why stop at 5? WHODATINCA likes this.

10-28-2014, 11:04 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Base D vs Blitzing D Originally Posted by Barry from MS Do y'all think staying in this Base D for a while is good for our slow linebackers and young secondary? Our secondary seemed to play better in this base look. Last night, this Base D with just Front 4 pressure with 7 in pass coverage certainly seemed effective. We got 2 picks of one of the best QB's & receiving corps in the league. We had 4 sacks as well, although 1 was against Flynn. We did give up 2 HUGE chunk plays of over 60 yards, but sometimes you have to expect that kind of thing against Rodgers & Crew. But what do y'all think? Stay in Base D & scrap the constant blitzing? We did seem to get plenty of QB pressure with just 4 last night. Of course, DC Ryan's head would explode if he doesn't blitz. We gave up over 400 yards passing... The only time the D looked good was when Rogers didn't have all year to throw. Pressure is the key in my opinion, how you get the pressure is the problem. If we are rushing 4, that's fine but we need to get home. I wasn't too impressed by the defense, they had good moments but missed tackles and WR/RBs running free was still a problem.

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