5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints

ClintSaints · 11-07-2014, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by kannon315

5.) Motivation
The last time the San Francisco 49ers played the New Orleans Saints they left the Mercedes-Benz Superdome feeling cheated and robbed. With 3:12, left on the clock and a 20-17 lead, Ahmad Brooks delivered what seemed like a game clinching sack fumble only to have it nullified by a questionable Unnecessary Roughness penalty. Many 49ers were visibly disturbed by the call and that perceived robbery could translate into some real motivation on the field this Sunday.

4.) NFC West Desperation
Currently the San Francisco 49ers are third in the NFC West and are only one game above being dead last. The 49ers have already equaled last year’s loss total and more importantly appear to be on the outside looking in for the NFC Playoff Picture. The 49ers trail the Cardinals by 3 games and have a losing record within the division; it seems their only shot at the playoffs will be a wildcard berth. A loss this Sunday will be a fourth NFC loss and the 49ers playoff hopes cannot afford that.

3.)Turnovers, Turnovers, Turnovers
The San Francisco 49ers defense ranks 10th, in the NFL, in forcing turnovers with 13 turnovers forced this season (9 INTs & 4 Fum.). The New Orleans Saints offense ranks 7th, in the league, in giveaways, a statistic that could play a pivotal role in who wins this game. In the last 3 meetings, between these two teams, the 49ers have forced the Saints into 10 turnovers not including last years reversed sack fumble. If the giving Saints hand the 49ers defense the ball, as history suggest, Sunday’s outcome will heavily favor the road team.

2.)Rushing Defense
The New Orleans Saints success this season has been tied to the running game. The Saints average more carries (30.8 vs. 22.3 in losses) and more yards (136.5 vs 122.5 in losses). Lucky for the 49ers, their rushing defense has been one of the more stout units in the NFL. This season, through 8 games, the 49ers are allowing a 5th best 85.6 yards per game on the ground. The stingy 49ers have only surrendered 5 scores on the ground. If the 49ers plan to halt the resurgent Saints the rushing defense may be the key.

1.) 3 Game Slide
For most NFL teams, in the playoff hunt, losing two games in a row can be a death sentence, but for this bunch it may be a God send. Under Jim Harbaugh, the 49ers have never lost three consecutive games. In fact in three games following a second straight loss, the team is giving up only 12.7 points while scoring 29.3. Since Harbaugh arrived, the 49ers have been a resilient and tough minded team. If the 49ers are able to keep that laser focus this Sunday against the Saints, chances are they will avoid the dreaded three game slide yet again.

Stay tuned for Five Reasons the Saints will beat the 49ers.

5 Reasons the San Francisco 49ers will beat the New Orleans Saints - Crescent City Kings

Your team is currently the 4th best team in its division, in my view. You can't win without excessive help from the refs and your coach is a maniac. And Colin has turned out to be a huge BUST.

But other than that, the 49ers are great!

Saints win easily 38 - 17. The 49ers no longer have the players on defense who really used to bother Brees.

RailBoss · 11-07-2014, 01:03 AM

49ers have internal dissension which will kill a team every time. Saints are getting in a groove and Coach is getting his mojo back. Still gotta remember Vic Fangio used to hang his hat in NO and he will come after Brees all day.

WHODATINCA · 11-07-2014, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by kannon315

5.) Motivation
The last time the San Francisco 49ers played the New Orleans Saints they left the Mercedes-Benz Superdome feeling cheated and robbed. With 3:12, left on the clock and a 20-17 lead, Ahmad Brooks delivered what seemed like a game clinching sack fumble only to have it nullified by a questionable Unnecessary Roughness penalty. Many 49ers were visibly disturbed by the call and that perceived robbery could translate into some real motivation on the field this Sunday.

4.) NFC West Desperation
Currently the San Francisco 49ers are third in the NFC West and are only one game above being dead last. The 49ers have already equaled last year’s loss total and more importantly appear to be on the outside looking in for the NFC Playoff Picture. The 49ers trail the Cardinals by 3 games and have a losing record within the division; it seems their only shot at the playoffs will be a wildcard berth. A loss this Sunday will be a fourth NFC loss and the 49ers playoff hopes cannot afford that.

3.)Turnovers, Turnovers, Turnovers
The San Francisco 49ers defense ranks 10th, in the NFL, in forcing turnovers with 13 turnovers forced this season (9 INTs & 4 Fum.). The New Orleans Saints offense ranks 7th, in the league, in giveaways, a statistic that could play a pivotal role in who wins this game. In the last 3 meetings, between these two teams, the 49ers have forced the Saints into 10 turnovers not including last years reversed sack fumble. If the giving Saints hand the 49ers defense the ball, as history suggest, Sunday’s outcome will heavily favor the road team.

2.)Rushing Defense
The New Orleans Saints success this season has been tied to the running game. The Saints average more carries (30.8 vs. 22.3 in losses) and more yards (136.5 vs 122.5 in losses). Lucky for the 49ers, their rushing defense has been one of the more stout units in the NFL. This season, through 8 games, the 49ers are allowing a 5th best 85.6 yards per game on the ground. The stingy 49ers have only surrendered 5 scores on the ground. If the 49ers plan to halt the resurgent Saints the rushing defense may be the key.

1.) 3 Game Slide
For most NFL teams, in the playoff hunt, losing two games in a row can be a death sentence, but for this bunch it may be a God send. Under Jim Harbaugh, the 49ers have never lost three consecutive games. In fact in three games following a second straight loss, the team is giving up only 12.7 points while scoring 29.3. Since Harbaugh arrived, the 49ers have been a resilient and tough minded team. If the 49ers are able to keep that laser focus this Sunday against the Saints, chances are they will avoid the dreaded three game slide yet again.

Stay tuned for Five Reasons the Saints will beat the 49ers.

5 Reasons the San Francisco 49ers will beat the New Orleans Saints - Crescent City Kings

5) B.S.

4) Total B.S.

3) Saints need to pay attention here.

2) Also, an area of needed attention with 2 RBs down -- but not anxiety provoking especially at home.

1) See 4 & 5.

xan · 11-08-2014, 09:25 AM

The balance of the article is "Whiners have an incentive to win"

There are burn victims who need some skin, of which this author is clearly a waste

Boutte · 11-08-2014, 06:31 PM

Everybody thinks the Saints are lock, even the media. That's never a good thing.

It's going to be a dog fight. (We have no RBs)

brees84 · 11-09-2014, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

(We have no RBs)

I'm more concerned about Strief injury. His absence would be tough to overcome.

WHODATINCA · 11-08-2014, 10:06 PM

3 out of five of your "reasons" are psychology related.

Seriously?! You have no idea what the motivation of any individual, nor, either "team", who are simply a collection of individuals.

I call most of this analysis:

SloMotion · 11-09-2014, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by kannon315

1) The ability for a team to bounce back is a reflection of their coach. In 2013 the 49ers lost two games by a combined 56-10 and rebounded to win 11 out of 13. That's no accident.

This is a point I focus on quite a bit. When considering the two teams, who's got the most level-headed coach-under-fire? While Harbaugh is a great motivater/strategist, he's gonna' push his boys over the edge vs taking them to the edge as I would imagine a Sean Payton would do. Gotta' go with the home-dogs for this one,

.

Good read.

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

3 out of five of your "reasons" are psychology related.

Seriously?! You have no idea what the motivation of any individual, nor, either "team", who are simply a collection of individuals.

I call most of this analysis:

I disagree. It's all about the mindset.

.

WHODATINCA · 11-10-2014, 04:07 PM

I disagree. It's all about the mindset. .

You mistake me, sir. I didn't say psychology wasn't involved.

I just said that this guy does not know exactly what the psychology/motivation is -- maybe someone's mother died. That unfortunate circumstance could belie his motivation on a particular day ( positively or negatively ). We don't know the psychology that influences each individual that make up an entire team -- and to assert that you do is BS.

As I said, if we lost this week, then the team will likely be more motivated next week. That's all I am willing to concede.

SloMotion · 11-11-2014, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

You mistake me, sir. I didn't say psychology wasn't involved.

I just said that this guy does not know exactly what the psychology/motivation is -- maybe someone's mother died. That unfortunate circumstance could belie his motivation on a particular day ( positively or negatively ). We don't know the psychology that influences each individual that make up an entire team -- and to assert that you do is BS.

As I said, if we lost this week, then the team will likely be more motivated next week. That's all I am willing to concede.

Yeah, I know. It's not something worth having that big a debate over because who really knows what motivates people or what's going on in their minds.

Professional football players are warriors, soldiers, gladiators, et ... so IMO, if you've ever consistently been in situations similar to playing a high-level contact sport/military, et ... you can make a pretty close determination of what it takes to play in the NFL and what motivates these guys on any given Sunday. You're right, the wild card is how can you factor in each and every unique personal experience (ie parent passing), and you can't. But you can tell when a particular athlete is having an "off day/season" and usually connect it to some type of personal issue/injury ... like fricken' Justin Verlander (Detroit Tigers) being the dominant pitcher in the Major Leagues until he started dating Kate "kryptonite" Upton, who sapped all his super powers,

(and he had surgery,

)

Nothing's 100% though, you're right,

.

11-07-2014, 12:45 AM	#1
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints Originally Posted by kannon315 5.) Motivation The last time the San Francisco 49ers played the New Orleans Saints they left the Mercedes-Benz Superdome feeling cheated and robbed. With 3:12, left on the clock and a 20-17 lead, Ahmad Brooks delivered what seemed like a game clinching sack fumble only to have it nullified by a questionable Unnecessary Roughness penalty. Many 49ers were visibly disturbed by the call and that perceived robbery could translate into some real motivation on the field this Sunday. 4.) NFC West Desperation Currently the San Francisco 49ers are third in the NFC West and are only one game above being dead last. The 49ers have already equaled last year’s loss total and more importantly appear to be on the outside looking in for the NFC Playoff Picture. The 49ers trail the Cardinals by 3 games and have a losing record within the division; it seems their only shot at the playoffs will be a wildcard berth. A loss this Sunday will be a fourth NFC loss and the 49ers playoff hopes cannot afford that. 3.)Turnovers, Turnovers, Turnovers The San Francisco 49ers defense ranks 10th, in the NFL, in forcing turnovers with 13 turnovers forced this season (9 INTs & 4 Fum.). The New Orleans Saints offense ranks 7th, in the league, in giveaways, a statistic that could play a pivotal role in who wins this game. In the last 3 meetings, between these two teams, the 49ers have forced the Saints into 10 turnovers not including last years reversed sack fumble. If the giving Saints hand the 49ers defense the ball, as history suggest, Sunday’s outcome will heavily favor the road team. 2.)Rushing Defense The New Orleans Saints success this season has been tied to the running game. The Saints average more carries (30.8 vs. 22.3 in losses) and more yards (136.5 vs 122.5 in losses). Lucky for the 49ers, their rushing defense has been one of the more stout units in the NFL. This season, through 8 games, the 49ers are allowing a 5th best 85.6 yards per game on the ground. The stingy 49ers have only surrendered 5 scores on the ground. If the 49ers plan to halt the resurgent Saints the rushing defense may be the key. 1.) 3 Game Slide For most NFL teams, in the playoff hunt, losing two games in a row can be a death sentence, but for this bunch it may be a God send. Under Jim Harbaugh, the 49ers have never lost three consecutive games. In fact in three games following a second straight loss, the team is giving up only 12.7 points while scoring 29.3. Since Harbaugh arrived, the 49ers have been a resilient and tough minded team. If the 49ers are able to keep that laser focus this Sunday against the Saints, chances are they will avoid the dreaded three game slide yet again. Stay tuned for Five Reasons the Saints will beat the 49ers. 5 Reasons the San Francisco 49ers will beat the New Orleans Saints - Crescent City Kings Your team is currently the 4th best team in its division, in my view. You can't win without excessive help from the refs and your coach is a maniac. And Colin has turned out to be a huge BUST. But other than that, the 49ers are great! Saints win easily 38 - 17. The 49ers no longer have the players on defense who really used to bother Brees.

11-07-2014, 01:03 AM	#2
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints 49ers have internal dissension which will kill a team every time. Saints are getting in a groove and Coach is getting his mojo back. Still gotta remember Vic Fangio used to hang his hat in NO and he will come after Brees all day.

11-07-2014, 02:38 AM	#3
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints Originally Posted by kannon315 5.) Motivation The last time the San Francisco 49ers played the New Orleans Saints they left the Mercedes-Benz Superdome feeling cheated and robbed. With 3:12, left on the clock and a 20-17 lead, Ahmad Brooks delivered what seemed like a game clinching sack fumble only to have it nullified by a questionable Unnecessary Roughness penalty. Many 49ers were visibly disturbed by the call and that perceived robbery could translate into some real motivation on the field this Sunday. 4.) NFC West Desperation Currently the San Francisco 49ers are third in the NFC West and are only one game above being dead last. The 49ers have already equaled last year’s loss total and more importantly appear to be on the outside looking in for the NFC Playoff Picture. The 49ers trail the Cardinals by 3 games and have a losing record within the division; it seems their only shot at the playoffs will be a wildcard berth. A loss this Sunday will be a fourth NFC loss and the 49ers playoff hopes cannot afford that. 3.)Turnovers, Turnovers, Turnovers The San Francisco 49ers defense ranks 10th, in the NFL, in forcing turnovers with 13 turnovers forced this season (9 INTs & 4 Fum.). The New Orleans Saints offense ranks 7th, in the league, in giveaways, a statistic that could play a pivotal role in who wins this game. In the last 3 meetings, between these two teams, the 49ers have forced the Saints into 10 turnovers not including last years reversed sack fumble. If the giving Saints hand the 49ers defense the ball, as history suggest, Sunday’s outcome will heavily favor the road team. 2.)Rushing Defense The New Orleans Saints success this season has been tied to the running game. The Saints average more carries (30.8 vs. 22.3 in losses) and more yards (136.5 vs 122.5 in losses). Lucky for the 49ers, their rushing defense has been one of the more stout units in the NFL. This season, through 8 games, the 49ers are allowing a 5th best 85.6 yards per game on the ground. The stingy 49ers have only surrendered 5 scores on the ground. If the 49ers plan to halt the resurgent Saints the rushing defense may be the key. 1.) 3 Game Slide For most NFL teams, in the playoff hunt, losing two games in a row can be a death sentence, but for this bunch it may be a God send. Under Jim Harbaugh, the 49ers have never lost three consecutive games. In fact in three games following a second straight loss, the team is giving up only 12.7 points while scoring 29.3. Since Harbaugh arrived, the 49ers have been a resilient and tough minded team. If the 49ers are able to keep that laser focus this Sunday against the Saints, chances are they will avoid the dreaded three game slide yet again. Stay tuned for Five Reasons the Saints will beat the 49ers. 5 Reasons the San Francisco 49ers will beat the New Orleans Saints - Crescent City Kings 5) B.S. 4) Total B.S. 3) Saints need to pay attention here. 2) Also, an area of needed attention with 2 RBs down -- but not anxiety provoking especially at home. 1) See 4 & 5. foreverfan, jlouhill, ClintSaints and 1 others like this.

11-08-2014, 09:25 AM	#4
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints The balance of the article is "Whiners have an incentive to win" There are burn victims who need some skin, of which this author is clearly a waste

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints Everybody thinks the Saints are lock, even the media. That's never a good thing. It's going to be a dog fight. (We have no RBs) SloMotion likes this.

11-09-2014, 08:07 AM	#6
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints Originally Posted by Boutte (We have no RBs) I'm more concerned about Strief injury. His absence would be tough to overcome.
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11-08-2014, 10:06 PM	#7
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints 3 out of five of your "reasons" are psychology related. Seriously?! You have no idea what the motivation of any individual, nor, either "team", who are simply a collection of individuals. I call most of this analysis:

11-09-2014, 07:59 AM	#8
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints Originally Posted by kannon315 1) The ability for a team to bounce back is a reflection of their coach. In 2013 the 49ers lost two games by a combined 56-10 and rebounded to win 11 out of 13. That's no accident. This is a point I focus on quite a bit. When considering the two teams, who's got the most level-headed coach-under-fire? While Harbaugh is a great motivater/strategist, he's gonna' push his boys over the edge vs taking them to the edge as I would imagine a Sean Payton would do. Gotta' go with the home-dogs for this one, . Good read. Originally Posted by WHODATINCA 3 out of five of your "reasons" are psychology related. Seriously?! You have no idea what the motivation of any individual, nor, either "team", who are simply a collection of individuals. I call most of this analysis: I disagree. It's all about the mindset. .

11-10-2014, 04:07 PM	#9
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints I disagree. It's all about the mindset. . You mistake me, sir. I didn't say psychology wasn't involved. I just said that this guy does not know exactly what the psychology/motivation is -- maybe someone's mother died. That unfortunate circumstance could belie his motivation on a particular day ( positively or negatively ). We don't know the psychology that influences each individual that make up an entire team -- and to assert that you do is BS. As I said, if we lost this week, then the team will likely be more motivated next week. That's all I am willing to concede.

11-11-2014, 07:38 AM	#10
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: 5 Reasons the 49ers will beat the Saints Originally Posted by WHODATINCA You mistake me, sir. I didn't say psychology wasn't involved. I just said that this guy does not know exactly what the psychology/motivation is -- maybe someone's mother died. That unfortunate circumstance could belie his motivation on a particular day ( positively or negatively ). We don't know the psychology that influences each individual that make up an entire team -- and to assert that you do is BS. As I said, if we lost this week, then the team will likely be more motivated next week. That's all I am willing to concede. Yeah, I know. It's not something worth having that big a debate over because who really knows what motivates people or what's going on in their minds. Professional football players are warriors, soldiers, gladiators, et ... so IMO, if you've ever consistently been in situations similar to playing a high-level contact sport/military, et ... you can make a pretty close determination of what it takes to play in the NFL and what motivates these guys on any given Sunday. You're right, the wild card is how can you factor in each and every unique personal experience (ie parent passing), and you can't. But you can tell when a particular athlete is having an "off day/season" and usually connect it to some type of personal issue/injury ... like fricken' Justin Verlander (Detroit Tigers) being the dominant pitcher in the Major Leagues until he started dating Kate "kryptonite" Upton, who sapped all his super powers, (and he had surgery, ) Nothing's 100% though, you're right, .

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