Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season
 

"NEW ORLEANS – Drew Brees has produced a lot of rare moments inside the Mercedes-Benz Superdome over the past nine years. But this was a new one on Sunday -- the New Orleans Saints quarterback being showered by boos from the home fans after his second interception in the first half of Sunday's 27-24 overtime loss to the San Francisco 49ers."

Saints' turnover-prone Drew Brees: Good isn't outweighing bad - ESPN

This season, as usual will ride Drew's shoulders either to success or failure. While everyone would agree we have defensive issues (which have been corrected in the last 4 games) Drew and co have never needed a great defense to be a winning team (currently 19th ranked D). We all expect more from Drew, and he admits he isn't playing well.

Point being; if Drew turns his season around this will be a very dangerous team to play at just the right time. Our record doesn't matter as long as we win the South. I think Drew corrects whatever is causing him these mental mistakes and we go 6-1 to finish the season. This is very doable, on paper we are extremely talented, it's time to execute.

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I can handle Brees making a bad decision every so ofton, he is now making them to ofton. It's on his shoulders to make better decisions. Our run game is solid, our recievers look solid, our D is playing much better, he really can't ask for much better than that.

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I agree....i guess I expect more...some of us expect others on the team to be perfect or near perfect.

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Yes... Its great the rest of the division sucks. :-)

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There was no need for him to force that pass into triple coverage before half time

Protection was great and he had a ton of time in the pocket

He made a lot of mistakes but it wasn't all him, colston will end up getting cut at the end of the season, how in the hell did he drop that 40 yard bomb that in recent years he's made with his eyes closed

Then for good measure the defense didn't want to be outdone and leaves someone uncovered 50 yards down field

Well done Corey and Vaccaro, you just blew another one.

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As much as drew has been pressing this year, I can't put this loss or any of the losses solely on him.

I think it's time for a little brutal honesty. This team as a whole just isn't very good this year (particularly when it's winning time). Whether it's a missed block, dropped pass, bad throw, blown coverage, missed tackle, untimely penalty, brain fart by the coaches, etc. This team just finds ways not to execute to win games. At the beginning of the season it was Ryan's defense losing us games. Then it was Sean payton's playcalling. Then it was brees arm strength. Now it's Brees turnovers. We just need to except there are no easy scapegoats. This team just isn't as good as we thought.

Can we still make the playoffs? Absolutely, we play in a division where no one is above 500. However, we need to stop trying to find places to focus our aggression after a loss (me included). All we can do now is support our team and hope everyone else in our division keeps sucking. Time to sit back and enjoy the show good or bad. That's what fans do.

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Trying to keep the conversation positive here gents...

We are in control and if Drew poses one of our biggest problems then I am sure he will get it corrected. Every player goes through a series of tough games, hopefully Drew puts these games behind him and can take a page from Rogers (relax).

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Brees doesn't consistently make mistakes, the fact that people are blaming him is comical...this man passed for 5,000 yards with a mediocre receiving corps and gets no respect....Corey White comes out publicly and says he'd rather be a nickleback instead of a starting corner....Vaccaro only had 6 interceptions his whole college career so we knew that wasn't happening in the pros....but we blame Brees????

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Are you saying he doesn't deserve any blame at all?

Because 12 turnovers in 9 weeks begs to differ.

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You just made my point. People like to look at one play and say that cost us the game. I could easily say if graham keeps his hands closer to his body on the push off we win the game. I could say if colston makes that 40 yard TD catch before half time brees doesn't have the opportunity to throw a int into triple coverage.

The fact of the matter is that I would be wrong. It takes a team to win and a team to lose. Drew will have his great moments (spin from a sure sack and throw a TD) and his bad moments (force a ball into triple coverage) like every other part of our team. It's those collective team moments that produce wins and losses and collectively this team isn't very good.

The one consistent problem I've seen all year (which is a team thing) is that we struggle closing tight games. Once again, closing football games is what separates good teams from mediocre teams. Right now we're a mediocre team at best.

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Brees is on pace for 24 turnovers this year... Has public stated he lost 2 games based on his own play, his words not mine.

Everyone deserves some blame but Brees is the face of the team, just like he owns the success he owns the failures. He has not played well this year, note I said this year.

I am a Saints fan first, I like drew, but if we could swap him for Rogers, Brady or Manning I would take that in a heart beat.

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That's crazy. I actually would take brees over all those guys. The only thing I would swap with those guys is their TD/INT ratio. That's really the only difference this year. Drew needs to cut down on the turnovers.

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Ahmad Brooks = Saints drive killer.

Credit 49ers for finding a way to win... good teams do this, even with backups (Willis/Aldon Smith/Bavarro ALL OUT) etc.

3 TURNOVERS at this level = L

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No one player by themselves can win/lose a ball game over 60-75 minutes of game time. In the spirit of this thread, this is the most I've seen Drew turn the ball over since he got here. WR's, RB's & TE's share some blame? Sure. O-Line share some blame? Sure. Play-calling share some blame? Sure.

Kinda knew what kind of day we were all in for with the 1st two offensive possessions...

1st possession: 1 completion/3 attempts for 2 yards with 1 INT
2nd possession: 0 completions/1 attempt for 0 yards (3-and-out)

He rebounded nicely with 3 TDs, but his 2 INTs and his lost fumble helped kill that "W" for us.

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I actually agree with most of your points. I'm the first to say I've been guilty of that in the past but as I've watched this season I've noticed brees won't be the sole reason we win or the sole reason we lose regardless of the size of his paycheck. Plus, unlike some qb's he's actually come out in the media and taken all the responsibility for a couple of losses even though it wasn't all him. He even said he agreed with the crowd booing him for throwing the pick before halftime. How many other qb's would've lashed out at the fans for booing.

I'm just saying, we should stop thinking brees or any player is the reason we won or the reason we lost. If we try to get rid of players that "cost us the game" every week we won't have any players left.

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Been saying win/lose as a team since little league. It's easy to assess immediate blame saying "The refs jobbed us of a win!" or "Corey White screwed us out of a win" or "The freakin' kicker missed which is why we lost".

It takes little to no effort of thought to say and assess such absolutes.

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Agree with you totally. Drew deserves "some" blame as well as the other 52 players on the roster. I can't speak for everyone else but I personally was blaming other players early in the season because to my eyes we shouldn't be as bad as we looked on the field so it was easier to say that this one guy sucks or those 2 guys suck rather than this team as whole isn't good. Every fan wants to believe that if they just change a couple of players at various positions that their team will be better but it's just not that easy

At any rate, time to cheer for March sanchez and the eagles tonight (never thought I'd say that)

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Not me but I would for Luck, much younger and understands the game at his age would give us 10 more years easy!!

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I'm not worried about Drew!

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Good Drew can turn it around. Bad Drew will kill us. We tend to get equal doses of each. It wouldn't hurt my feelings abit to sit him and go with Ryan. Its all about winning not what you have done.

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[QUOTE=blackangold;624014]Brees is on pace for 24 turnovers this year... Has public stated he lost 2 games based on his own play, his words not mine.

Everyone deserves some blame but Brees is the face of the team, just like he owns the success he owns the failures. He has not played well this year, note I said this year.

I am a Saints fan first, I like drew, but if we could swap him for Rogers, Brady or Manning I would take that in a heart beat.[/QUOTE

Really? Drew & SP got me a Lombardi trophy, something I thought that I would never live to see. I will be a fan of his through whatever happens. No matter what.

WHODAT!!!

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I think it is pretty average that the home crowd would boo Brees.

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The crowd & us on here thought this team had turned a corner with definitive wins against the Packers & the Panties. That INT into triple coverage in the end zone to close the half slapped us all back to the reality that this team is still an average to below-average team.

Don't believe me? 4-5 is definitely not above average and definitely not elite. It is mildly average and the argument can be made that we are below average.

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Wait, uh, what .... are you serious?

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I understand that we are currently well short of expectations this year and I am as frustrated as anyone (given my own personal expectations). I am actually surprised at how much these losses have impacted me given it is my first year fully supporting the Saints. I have always been emotionally attached to sporting teams I follow.

Doesn't mean I have to agree with Booing Brees. I think it is bad taste.

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when it all get back on track this will all be a bad dream

Drew is still trying to get use to all the new faces he throwing to IMO. to be honest the group has not been the greatest thus far. WR shoulder a bunch of the blame.

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He really misses Sproles. We no longer have that 3rd down option like Bush/Sproles. Worst move Loomis has made so far was that trade. I can assure you that if we had Sproles we would have at least 2 more wins.

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I can't believe the Dome crowd is booing Brees. Yes, Brees made some boneheaded mistakes. He seems to be doing that more the last few years trying to be the hero. But booing? I frikkin hate it when a crowd boos the home team.

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Play better and you won't get booed.

Comes with holding out because you think you deserve to be making $100 million for your future performances.

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Because he's Drew Brees!

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Anybody that boo's their team is a spoiled bandwagon fan and has no loyalty to anything. I sure hope no one sitting near me boo's them at the Ravens game. I would hate to get thrown out of the dome for choking the crap out of some ungrateful a-hole.

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Got to be the dumbest **** I've read on here in a while.

Congratulations you accomplished that with less than 200 posts.

You would be better suited as a Raiders fan if that's you mentality.

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Right now he's a little behind the pace count but we are in 1st place so no complaints there, even if it is by default we are winning the Division at the half way point. That's all we need to do. He could throw 30 picks for all I care, if we win it new season. I don't see him doing that however, we are slowly getting out of the funk. The D is playing better, receivers are making plays...not concerned about it.

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If Drew had an offensive line his troubles would dissipate.

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Random question but who is Nick Underhill?