Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season

blackangold · 11-10-2014, 12:09 AM

"NEW ORLEANS – Drew Brees has produced a lot of rare moments inside the Mercedes-Benz Superdome over the past nine years. But this was a new one on Sunday -- the New Orleans Saints quarterback being showered by boos from the home fans after his second interception in the first half of Sunday's 27-24 overtime loss to the San Francisco 49ers."

Saints' turnover-prone Drew Brees: Good isn't outweighing bad - ESPN

This season, as usual will ride Drew's shoulders either to success or failure. While everyone would agree we have defensive issues (which have been corrected in the last 4 games) Drew and co have never needed a great defense to be a winning team (currently 19th ranked D). We all expect more from Drew, and he admits he isn't playing well.

Point being; if Drew turns his season around this will be a very dangerous team to play at just the right time. Our record doesn't matter as long as we win the South. I think Drew corrects whatever is causing him these mental mistakes and we go 6-1 to finish the season. This is very doable, on paper we are extremely talented, it's time to execute.

halloween 65 · 11-10-2014, 12:56 AM

I can handle Brees making a bad decision every so ofton, he is now making them to ofton. It's on his shoulders to make better decisions. Our run game is solid, our recievers look solid, our D is playing much better, he really can't ask for much better than that.

Rsanders24 · 11-10-2014, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I can handle Brees making a bad decision every so ofton, he is now making them to ofton. It's on his shoulders to make better decisions. Our run game is solid, our recievers look solid, our D is playing much better, he really can't ask for much better than that.

I agree....i guess I expect more...some of us expect others on the team to be perfect or near perfect.

foreverfan · 11-10-2014, 01:43 AM

Yes... Its great the rest of the division sucks.

dizzle88 · 11-10-2014, 06:31 AM

There was no need for him to force that pass into triple coverage before half time

Protection was great and he had a ton of time in the pocket

He made a lot of mistakes but it wasn't all him, colston will end up getting cut at the end of the season, how in the hell did he drop that 40 yard bomb that in recent years he's made with his eyes closed

Then for good measure the defense didn't want to be outdone and leaves someone uncovered 50 yards down field

Well done Corey and Vaccaro, you just blew another one.

ikecomp · 11-10-2014, 10:44 AM

As much as drew has been pressing this year, I can't put this loss or any of the losses solely on him.

I think it's time for a little brutal honesty. This team as a whole just isn't very good this year (particularly when it's winning time). Whether it's a missed block, dropped pass, bad throw, blown coverage, missed tackle, untimely penalty, brain fart by the coaches, etc. This team just finds ways not to execute to win games. At the beginning of the season it was Ryan's defense losing us games. Then it was Sean payton's playcalling. Then it was brees arm strength. Now it's Brees turnovers. We just need to except there are no easy scapegoats. This team just isn't as good as we thought.

Can we still make the playoffs? Absolutely, we play in a division where no one is above 500. However, we need to stop trying to find places to focus our aggression after a loss (me included). All we can do now is support our team and hope everyone else in our division keeps sucking. Time to sit back and enjoy the show good or bad. That's what fans do.

blackangold · 11-10-2014, 11:47 AM

Trying to keep the conversation positive here gents...

We are in control and if Drew poses one of our biggest problems then I am sure he will get it corrected. Every player goes through a series of tough games, hopefully Drew puts these games behind him and can take a page from Rogers (relax).

DrewDat · 11-10-2014, 12:01 PM

Brees doesn't consistently make mistakes, the fact that people are blaming him is comical...this man passed for 5,000 yards with a mediocre receiving corps and gets no respect....Corey White comes out publicly and says he'd rather be a nickleback instead of a starting corner....Vaccaro only had 6 interceptions his whole college career so we knew that wasn't happening in the pros....but we blame Brees????

dizzle88 · 11-10-2014, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by DrewDat

Brees doesn't consistently make mistakes, the fact that people are blaming him is comical...this man passed for 5,000 yards with a mediocre receiving corps and gets no respect....Corey White comes out publicly and says he'd rather be a nickleback instead of a starting corner....Vaccaro only had 6 interceptions his whole college career so we knew that wasn't happening in the pros....but we blame Brees????

Are you saying he doesn't deserve any blame at all?

Because 12 turnovers in 9 weeks begs to differ.

ikecomp · 11-10-2014, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

and why is that. when vacarro mess up we ready to trade him. when robinson gets burned we ready to hold his check. our defensive front line dont get to the qb we ready for the draft. drew f'n brees f-up and its not solely his fault. he threw a redzone pick, he threw a pick on our end of the field giving the 9ers great field position. he overthrew a would be td. to stills or cooks (i cant remeber). now do he make some big plays hell yeah he did, but our defense did as well and all i see some people say is the 4th and 10 play.

You just made my point. People like to look at one play and say that cost us the game. I could easily say if graham keeps his hands closer to his body on the push off we win the game. I could say if colston makes that 40 yard TD catch before half time brees doesn't have the opportunity to throw a int into triple coverage.

The fact of the matter is that I would be wrong. It takes a team to win and a team to lose. Drew will have his great moments (spin from a sure sack and throw a TD) and his bad moments (force a ball into triple coverage) like every other part of our team. It's those collective team moments that produce wins and losses and collectively this team isn't very good.

The one consistent problem I've seen all year (which is a team thing) is that we struggle closing tight games. Once again, closing football games is what separates good teams from mediocre teams. Right now we're a mediocre team at best.

11-10-2014, 12:09 AM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season "NEW ORLEANS – Drew Brees has produced a lot of rare moments inside the Mercedes-Benz Superdome over the past nine years. But this was a new one on Sunday -- the New Orleans Saints quarterback being showered by boos from the home fans after his second interception in the first half of Sunday's 27-24 overtime loss to the San Francisco 49ers." Saints' turnover-prone Drew Brees: Good isn't outweighing bad - ESPN This season, as usual will ride Drew's shoulders either to success or failure. While everyone would agree we have defensive issues (which have been corrected in the last 4 games) Drew and co have never needed a great defense to be a winning team (currently 19th ranked D). We all expect more from Drew, and he admits he isn't playing well. Point being; if Drew turns his season around this will be a very dangerous team to play at just the right time. Our record doesn't matter as long as we win the South. I think Drew corrects whatever is causing him these mental mistakes and we go 6-1 to finish the season. This is very doable, on paper we are extremely talented, it's time to execute.

11-10-2014, 12:56 AM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season I can handle Brees making a bad decision every so ofton, he is now making them to ofton. It's on his shoulders to make better decisions. Our run game is solid, our recievers look solid, our D is playing much better, he really can't ask for much better than that. Rsanders24 and Beastmode like this.

11-10-2014, 01:10 AM	#3
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season Originally Posted by halloween 65 I can handle Brees making a bad decision every so ofton, he is now making them to ofton. It's on his shoulders to make better decisions. Our run game is solid, our recievers look solid, our D is playing much better, he really can't ask for much better than that. I agree....i guess I expect more...some of us expect others on the team to be perfect or near perfect.

11-10-2014, 01:43 AM	#4
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season Yes... Its great the rest of the division sucks.

11-10-2014, 06:31 AM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season There was no need for him to force that pass into triple coverage before half time Protection was great and he had a ton of time in the pocket He made a lot of mistakes but it wasn't all him, colston will end up getting cut at the end of the season, how in the hell did he drop that 40 yard bomb that in recent years he's made with his eyes closed Then for good measure the defense didn't want to be outdone and leaves someone uncovered 50 yards down field Well done Corey and Vaccaro, you just blew another one. Audiotom likes this.
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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season As much as drew has been pressing this year, I can't put this loss or any of the losses solely on him. I think it's time for a little brutal honesty. This team as a whole just isn't very good this year (particularly when it's winning time). Whether it's a missed block, dropped pass, bad throw, blown coverage, missed tackle, untimely penalty, brain fart by the coaches, etc. This team just finds ways not to execute to win games. At the beginning of the season it was Ryan's defense losing us games. Then it was Sean payton's playcalling. Then it was brees arm strength. Now it's Brees turnovers. We just need to except there are no easy scapegoats. This team just isn't as good as we thought. Can we still make the playoffs? Absolutely, we play in a division where no one is above 500. However, we need to stop trying to find places to focus our aggression after a loss (me included). All we can do now is support our team and hope everyone else in our division keeps sucking. Time to sit back and enjoy the show good or bad. That's what fans do. saintsfan1976, captainshawn and brees84 like this.
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11-10-2014, 11:47 AM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season Trying to keep the conversation positive here gents... We are in control and if Drew poses one of our biggest problems then I am sure he will get it corrected. Every player goes through a series of tough games, hopefully Drew puts these games behind him and can take a page from Rogers (relax).

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DrewDat DOMEPATROL Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Due To Military Obligation Posts: 479	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season Brees doesn't consistently make mistakes, the fact that people are blaming him is comical...this man passed for 5,000 yards with a mediocre receiving corps and gets no respect....Corey White comes out publicly and says he'd rather be a nickleback instead of a starting corner....Vaccaro only had 6 interceptions his whole college career so we knew that wasn't happening in the pros....but we blame Brees???? captainshawn likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season Originally Posted by DrewDat Brees doesn't consistently make mistakes, the fact that people are blaming him is comical...this man passed for 5,000 yards with a mediocre receiving corps and gets no respect....Corey White comes out publicly and says he'd rather be a nickleback instead of a starting corner....Vaccaro only had 6 interceptions his whole college career so we knew that wasn't happening in the pros....but we blame Brees???? Are you saying he doesn't deserve any blame at all? Because 12 turnovers in 9 weeks begs to differ. teddybarexxx likes this.

11-10-2014, 12:18 PM	#10
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Turn-over prone Drew Brees can turn around season Originally Posted by teddybarexxx and why is that. when vacarro mess up we ready to trade him. when robinson gets burned we ready to hold his check. our defensive front line dont get to the qb we ready for the draft. drew f'n brees f-up and its not solely his fault. he threw a redzone pick, he threw a pick on our end of the field giving the 9ers great field position. he overthrew a would be td. to stills or cooks (i cant remeber). now do he make some big plays hell yeah he did, but our defense did as well and all i see some people say is the 4th and 10 play. You just made my point. People like to look at one play and say that cost us the game. I could easily say if graham keeps his hands closer to his body on the push off we win the game. I could say if colston makes that 40 yard TD catch before half time brees doesn't have the opportunity to throw a int into triple coverage. The fact of the matter is that I would be wrong. It takes a team to win and a team to lose. Drew will have his great moments (spin from a sure sack and throw a TD) and his bad moments (force a ball into triple coverage) like every other part of our team. It's those collective team moments that produce wins and losses and collectively this team isn't very good. The one consistent problem I've seen all year (which is a team thing) is that we struggle closing tight games. Once again, closing football games is what separates good teams from mediocre teams. Right now we're a mediocre team at best.
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