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Rugby Saint II 11-10-2014 04:50 PM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
Surely there is a college coach who knows how to develop LB'ers. Vitt ain't that guy unfortunately.

Danno 11-10-2014 05:03 PM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
I think the problem is drafting more than it is coaching.

Every FA LB we signed comes here and plays about the same as they did with their other team (Lofton, Hawthorne, Vilma, Haralson, Shanle).

Every LB that left here for another team ends up playing about the same as when they were here (Dunbar, Casillas, Fujita).

blackangold 11-11-2014 12:20 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
JR and Jordan are the only ones getting pressure. Our biggest problem on D this year comes from the DT/NT position. No push is being generated in the middle, Hicks has been complete **** this year and everyone else is worse than him at rushing the QB. If you pay attention you can see a rotation of DTs through the game on passing downs, this is because none of them are getting it done.

Hicks is my most disappointing player for the year right now. Bunkley has never been a pass rusher. I am afraid we don't have an in house solution to this problem.

Imagine how well our D would be doing with Suh or McCoy in the middle pushing the pocket and setting up Cam/JR...

Seriously watch the game tape... no push in the middle and the QB can step up freely 90% of the time.

blackangold 11-11-2014 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 624067)
Surely there is a college coach who knows how to develop LB'ers. Vitt ain't that guy unfortunately.
Vitt and Payton are buddies, he aint going anywhere.

Who did Payton put in charge during the 2012 season? Vitt... lol lol lol

We all know Vitt is not capable of being anything more than a tit sucker. RR should have been free to bring his own guys in.

jeanpierre 11-11-2014 01:51 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 624047)
You liked the giants LBs... Who happened to give up 300+ yards rushing?
If you watched the game, you saw the 43 defensive line ends lose containment on Russel Wilson (there were alot of non-calls by refs as the game was in Seattle), where the Seattle QB ran for really big gashes (14/107 yds) and the Giants LBers were wore out from being on the field where Lynch got his in the second half (21/140 yds); for most of the first half, the Giants LBers kept that bottled up...

But it was there effort and assignments (covering not just RBs, TEs, but WRs) and speed that was most impressive...

halloween 65 11-11-2014 06:35 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 624118)
JR and Jordan are the only ones getting pressure. Our biggest problem on D this year comes from the DT/NT position. No push is being generated in the middle, Hicks has been complete **** this year and everyone else is worse than him at rushing the QB. If you pay attention you can see a rotation of DTs through the game on passing downs, this is because none of them are getting it done.

Hicks is my most disappointing player for the year right now. Bunkley has never been a pass rusher. I am afraid we don't have an in house solution to this problem.

Imagine how well our D would be doing with Suh or McCoy in the middle pushing the pocket and setting up Cam/JR...

Seriously watch the game tape... no push in the middle and the QB can step up freely 90% of the time.
Some people thought I was crazy for wanting a NT in the 1st last draft, funny!!

FinSaint 11-11-2014 06:44 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 624118)
Hicks is my most disappointing player for the year right now.
IMO, Hicks hasn't been anywhere near as disappointing as Vaccaro has been.

dizzle88 11-11-2014 06:46 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 624152)
IMO, Hicks hasn't been anywhere near as disappointing as Vaccaro has been.
Hicks has been invisible, Vaccaro has been so bad it's hard not to spot him messing up.

hagan714 11-11-2014 08:55 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
sorry everyone yells about players and assistance coaches but why in the world does everyone leave the one person who is truly responsible for this mess. The staff and players are the responsibility of one person ROB RYAN

Why does every one leave ROB out of this topic. Love drinking with the guy? his defense has not done anything since the bye week of last year.

get some guts and go after the person you should be head hunting for.

Danno 11-11-2014 09:19 AM
Re: Saints Linebackers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 624149)
Some people thought I was crazy for wanting a NT in the 1st last draft, funny!!
You do know thats NOT why they think you're crazy right?:p


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