Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones

foreverfan · 11-10-2014, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm sold, but honestly we could probably sign two above average CBs or LBs for what he'll want

And don't forget the draft.

rezburna · 11-10-2014, 10:09 PM

We'll have plenty of money next year. I don't even think Colston will be back. I'm positive Brees will restructure after this down year. And we'll make some other needed moves.

Exxcalibur · 11-10-2014, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Seriously??? With our secondary and O line issues? WR is the last thing we need. Give Brees the time he needs, and Stills, Graham, Cooks, Colston, Lorig/Johnson,PT, and now Ingram are plenty. Brees put up record breaking numbers without a true #1 receiver. We need a #2 corner bad....hell, even a #3 corner also. Our secondary sucks a$$.

^^

blackangold · 11-11-2014, 01:01 AM

WRs don't matter in the Sean Payton system.

The WRs in Payton's system only need speed on the big PA fakes. The passing game is based on finding the zone soft spot and sitting down in it. This is why man cover teams give us so many problems. Jones would be a waste in our system. Cooks is an amazing WR and extremely elusive but he never finds space because most of the routes require him to find the zone and sit down. When a WR is searching for the zone he isn't getting separation from man coverage.

Personally I would love to see a vertical passing attack but unless we change our scheme having Jones might be a waste IMO.

WillSaints81 · 11-11-2014, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Would LOVE to have him. No question.

But we need LBs worse that WRs. I mean, it'd be nice to score 40 a game, but it'd also be really nice if we could stop the other team from scoring 30 a game.

It's not that easy to do when defenses get fined for touching a player and of course the penalties are not all right. We could play great defense and then give a team free yards because of a penalty.

WillSaints81 · 11-11-2014, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

WRs don't matter in the Sean Payton system.

The WRs in Payton's system only need speed on the big PA fakes. The passing game is based on finding the zone soft spot and sitting down in it. This is why man cover teams give us so many problems. Jones would be a waste in our system. Cooks is an amazing WR and extremely elusive but he never finds space because most of the routes require him to find the zone and sit down. When a WR is searching for the zone he isn't getting separation from man coverage.

Personally I would love to see a vertical passing attack but unless we change our scheme having Jones might be a waste IMO.

Teams like Seattle and SF though have exploited that. That no longer works against them. We did not play bad yesterday the second half. It's just a matter of seeing what a game changer like Boldin can do when its crunch time. Thats why that play was converted. If Boldin was not on the team that does not happen.

jeanpierre · 11-11-2014, 03:10 AM

One, ATL is gonna add that option year to the former first rounder, and just can't see them letting him leave...

Two, we just moved up in the first round of the past draft at the expense of an add'l pick, third rounder...

Three, we've got major holes to fill on the offensive line and yet to find 34 linebackers for our new, yet-installed, 34 defense...

Fourth, we've got to decide and have cap space for our starting defensive ends which makes Galette's deal a head scratcher...

Fifth, the only way we're getting a complementary CB to Keenan Lewis is free agency as the FO has shown a complete inability to assess and draft one...

Not to mention that we're gonna have to release some players in the final year of their contract and they'll need replacement...

Committing that much cap space to a few individuals?!? Haven't we learned our lesson yet?!?

We've got enough weapons at the offensive skill position with only one ball to throw per play...

How are you gonna find him enough targets to justify signing him to what you'll sign him for...

Bro KV · 11-11-2014, 04:26 AM

Cooks has the potential to be our #1 receiver.

lee909 · 11-11-2014, 06:39 AM

More chance of waiting another year and going after AJ Green, some of the big contracts likes of Colston,Grubbs,Evans,Lofton,Bunkley etc contracts are at a point when the dead money is small enough for cuts. Other contracts like Byrd,Graham,Galette can be redone.

Anyway Cam Jordan comes first

dizzle88 · 11-11-2014, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

More chance of waiting another year and going after AJ Green, some of the big contracts likes of Colston,Grubbs,Evans,Lofton,Bunkley etc contracts are at a point when the dead money is small enough for cuts. Other contracts like Byrd,Graham,Galette can be redone.

Anyway Cam Jordan comes first

And Ingram, I definitely think we need to keep him.

11-10-2014, 09:59 PM	#11
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones Originally Posted by Danno I'm sold, but honestly we could probably sign two above average CBs or LBs for what he'll want And don't forget the draft.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones We'll have plenty of money next year. I don't even think Colston will be back. I'm positive Brees will restructure after this down year. And we'll make some other needed moves. saintfan likes this.

11-10-2014, 11:41 PM	#13
Exxcalibur Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,389	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Seriously??? With our secondary and O line issues? WR is the last thing we need. Give Brees the time he needs, and Stills, Graham, Cooks, Colston, Lorig/Johnson,PT, and now Ingram are plenty. Brees put up record breaking numbers without a true #1 receiver. We need a #2 corner bad....hell, even a #3 corner also. Our secondary sucks a$$. ^^

11-11-2014, 01:01 AM	#14
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones WRs don't matter in the Sean Payton system. The WRs in Payton's system only need speed on the big PA fakes. The passing game is based on finding the zone soft spot and sitting down in it. This is why man cover teams give us so many problems. Jones would be a waste in our system. Cooks is an amazing WR and extremely elusive but he never finds space because most of the routes require him to find the zone and sit down. When a WR is searching for the zone he isn't getting separation from man coverage. Personally I would love to see a vertical passing attack but unless we change our scheme having Jones might be a waste IMO. Audiotom likes this.

11-11-2014, 02:39 AM	#15
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones Originally Posted by saintfan Would LOVE to have him. No question. But we need LBs worse that WRs. I mean, it'd be nice to score 40 a game, but it'd also be really nice if we could stop the other team from scoring 30 a game. It's not that easy to do when defenses get fined for touching a player and of course the penalties are not all right. We could play great defense and then give a team free yards because of a penalty.

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11-11-2014, 02:43 AM	#16
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones Originally Posted by blackangold WRs don't matter in the Sean Payton system. The WRs in Payton's system only need speed on the big PA fakes. The passing game is based on finding the zone soft spot and sitting down in it. This is why man cover teams give us so many problems. Jones would be a waste in our system. Cooks is an amazing WR and extremely elusive but he never finds space because most of the routes require him to find the zone and sit down. When a WR is searching for the zone he isn't getting separation from man coverage. Personally I would love to see a vertical passing attack but unless we change our scheme having Jones might be a waste IMO. Teams like Seattle and SF though have exploited that. That no longer works against them. We did not play bad yesterday the second half. It's just a matter of seeing what a game changer like Boldin can do when its crunch time. Thats why that play was converted. If Boldin was not on the team that does not happen.

11-11-2014, 03:10 AM	#17
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones One, ATL is gonna add that option year to the former first rounder, and just can't see them letting him leave... Two, we just moved up in the first round of the past draft at the expense of an add'l pick, third rounder... Three, we've got major holes to fill on the offensive line and yet to find 34 linebackers for our new, yet-installed, 34 defense... Fourth, we've got to decide and have cap space for our starting defensive ends which makes Galette's deal a head scratcher... Fifth, the only way we're getting a complementary CB to Keenan Lewis is free agency as the FO has shown a complete inability to assess and draft one... Not to mention that we're gonna have to release some players in the final year of their contract and they'll need replacement... Committing that much cap space to a few individuals?!? Haven't we learned our lesson yet?!? We've got enough weapons at the offensive skill position with only one ball to throw per play... How are you gonna find him enough targets to justify signing him to what you'll sign him for... Rugby Saint II likes this.
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11-11-2014, 06:39 AM	#19
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones More chance of waiting another year and going after AJ Green, some of the big contracts likes of Colston,Grubbs,Evans,Lofton,Bunkley etc contracts are at a point when the dead money is small enough for cuts. Other contracts like Byrd,Graham,Galette can be redone. Anyway Cam Jordan comes first

11-11-2014, 06:41 AM	#20
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones Originally Posted by lee909 More chance of waiting another year and going after AJ Green, some of the big contracts likes of Colston,Grubbs,Evans,Lofton,Bunkley etc contracts are at a point when the dead money is small enough for cuts. Other contracts like Byrd,Graham,Galette can be redone. Anyway Cam Jordan comes first And Ingram, I definitely think we need to keep him.

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