2015 draft??

jeanpierre · 01-05-2015, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

JP, I got to disagree here, not saying your totally wrong but with Hicks and Jordan playing each side of a stud NT that looks like a good mix up front. With Harelson, Lofton, JR. and drafting a stud ILB and another late round swing man for up front(good run-stuffer) I think we will be stong against the run as well as getting pressure on passing downs and with that the secondary could look like All-Pro's. I might look at it a little different than what you look at it but I think 3 players in the draft along with a few good FA and we could have a he!! of a stout 3-4 D. I just don't know if we will draft this way?

Halloween, the regression and total lack of a pass rush all season with the exception when matchups were against opposing offenses backups is why I feel as I do...

The secondary catches alot of grief, but when passers have 4+ seconds to distribute the ball...heads need to roll up front, dlinemen and coach...

John Jenkins' injury was probably more serious than Payton would tip his hand and I like his size moving forward; Bunkley's injury, cap hit may necessitate finding a rotation mate at the nose tackle...

The only defensive linemen I found displayed any real physical trait was Tyrunn Walker who has the best bull rush out of our defensive ends...

And the biggest, unheralded loss on defense had to have been Glenn Foster...

Foster not only spelled Jordan, he also brought a different skill set to challenge opposing linemen in addition to his own playmaking...

We could move to a 4-3 to keep changing looks when Junior was ineffective...

halloween 65 · 01-05-2015, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Halloween, the regression and total lack of a pass rush all season with the exception when matchups were against opposing offenses backups is why I feel as I do...

The secondary catches alot of grief, but when passers have 4+ seconds to distribute the ball...heads need to roll up front, dlinemen and coach...

John Jenkins' injury was probably more serious than Payton would tip his hand and I like his size moving forward; Bunkley's injury, cap hit may necessitate finding a rotation mate at the nose tackle...

The only defensive linemen I found displayed any real physical trait was Tyrunn Walker who has the best bull rush out of our defensive ends...

And the biggest, unheralded loss on defense had to have been Glenn Foster...

Foster not only spelled Jordan, he also brought a different skill set to challenge opposing linemen in addition to his own playmaking...

We could move to a 4-3 to keep changing looks when Junior was ineffective...

I totally understand your frustation, it piSSed me off all year watching us get slaudered like cattle at a slauder house. Foster was much better than I give him credit for. Were missing a few pieces. Bunkley underwhelmed the most to me all year, not saying the rest didn't. If we get someone in there to collapse the pocket on a consistant level we will be much better in about all aspects, still need lb.'s though.

Danno · 01-07-2015, 05:45 PM

Looks like a great 1st round with plenty of options.

Is there anyone in this preliminary top 25 list that you wouldn't be happy with, other than Winston?

Rank Player Pos. Pos. Rank School Class Ht. Wt. Proj. Round
1 *Marcus Mariota QB 1 Oregon rJr 6-4 215 1
2 *Leonard Williams DT 1 Southern California Jr 6-5 298 1
3 *Jameis Winston QB 2 Florida State rSo 6-4 232 1
4 *Randy Gregory DE 1 Nebraska rJr 6-6 245 1
5 *Amari Cooper WR 1 Alabama Jr 6-1 210 1
6 Brandon Scherff OT 1 Iowa rSr 6-5 320 1
7 *Landon Collins SS 1 Alabama Jr 6-0 222 1
8 *Shane Ray DE 2 Missouri rJr 6-3 245 1
9 Vic Beasley OLB 1 Clemson rSr 6-2 235 1
10 *Shaq Thompson OLB 2 Washington Jr 6-2 231 1
11 *Andrus Peat OT 2 Stanford Jr 6-7 312 1
12 DeVante Parker WR 2 Louisville Sr 6-3 209 1
13 Alvin Dupree DE 3 Kentucky rSr 6-4 267 1
14 *Dante Fowler Jr. OLB 3 Florida Jr 6-2 261 1
15 Kevin White WR 3 West Virginia Sr 6-3 210 1
16 La'el Collins OT 3 LSU Sr 6-5 321 1
17 *Trae Waynes CB 1 Michigan State rJr 6-1 183 1
18 T.J. Clemmings OT 4 Pittsburgh rSr 6-5 305 1
19 Danny Shelton DT 2 Washington Sr 6-2 332 1
20 Cedric Ogbuehi OT 5 Texas A&M rSr 6-5 300 1
21 *Eddie Goldman DT 3 Florida State Jr 6-3 320 1
22 *Melvin Gordon RB 1 Wisconsin rJr 6-1 207 1
23 *Dorial Green-Beckham WR 4 Oklahoma rJr 6-5 225 1
24 *Benardrick McKinney ILB 1 Mississippi State rJr 6-4 249 1
25 *Malcom Brown DT 4 Texas Jr 6-4 320 1-2

NFL Draft - 2015 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

saintsfan1976 · 01-07-2015, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Looks like a great 1st round with plenty of options.

Is there anyone in this preliminary top 25 list that you wouldn't be happy with, other than Winston?

Beasley

Danno · 01-07-2015, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Beasley

Agree, but the rest of that list looks pretty sweet eh?

jeanpierre · 01-07-2015, 06:34 PM

Not sold on Gregory, wary of "tweener" DE, LBers

Collins is a solid safety, for a low second, high third, but our problem is front seven on defense...

Shane Ray, Al Dupree, and Fowler are all Junior Galette with polish, maybe without the SweetPea accessory - no thanks...

Melvin Gordon, pass, no RB's with a one or two, maybe a three, but our offense doesn't need that type - Peterson is a freak, they're just not laying around like that...

If we draft a WR, y'all may here my head explode and inaudible yelpish noise that alludes to the name "Millen"...

Really like NT Malcolm Brown, but not with a first rounder that high...

Peat is an athletic freak, but is his heart in the game?!?

If available, I'm Liking LB Shaq Thompson, then OT Brandon Scherff, LB Benardrick McKinney, maybe moved down a few spots for CB P.J. Williams...

saintsfan1976 · 01-07-2015, 07:23 PM

I'd like to see Hicks at NT with Walker and Jordan at DE.

Keep Harralson, add an OLB and ILB - one drafted, one via FA.

Keep Robinson as camp competition, add a #2 CB in FA.

K Major · 01-07-2015, 08:24 PM

Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round.

Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast.

halloween 65 · 01-07-2015, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round.

Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast.

He might go up at the combine. I hope we get him.

Mr.Riaton · 01-07-2015, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round.

Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast.

I just watched highlights on him and I am freaking impressed....even more than McKinney. I have no idea why he is projected as a 2nd rounder except maybe for his height (6 ft). I would LOVE to have this guy on our team! From what I can see,he would be worth a first rounder.

01-05-2015, 12:41 PM	#171
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by halloween 65 JP, I got to disagree here, not saying your totally wrong but with Hicks and Jordan playing each side of a stud NT that looks like a good mix up front. With Harelson, Lofton, JR. and drafting a stud ILB and another late round swing man for up front(good run-stuffer) I think we will be stong against the run as well as getting pressure on passing downs and with that the secondary could look like All-Pro's. I might look at it a little different than what you look at it but I think 3 players in the draft along with a few good FA and we could have a he!! of a stout 3-4 D. I just don't know if we will draft this way? Halloween, the regression and total lack of a pass rush all season with the exception when matchups were against opposing offenses backups is why I feel as I do... The secondary catches alot of grief, but when passers have 4+ seconds to distribute the ball...heads need to roll up front, dlinemen and coach... John Jenkins' injury was probably more serious than Payton would tip his hand and I like his size moving forward; Bunkley's injury, cap hit may necessitate finding a rotation mate at the nose tackle... The only defensive linemen I found displayed any real physical trait was Tyrunn Walker who has the best bull rush out of our defensive ends... And the biggest, unheralded loss on defense had to have been Glenn Foster... Foster not only spelled Jordan, he also brought a different skill set to challenge opposing linemen in addition to his own playmaking... We could move to a 4-3 to keep changing looks when Junior was ineffective... halloween 65 likes this.
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01-05-2015, 01:31 PM	#172
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Halloween, the regression and total lack of a pass rush all season with the exception when matchups were against opposing offenses backups is why I feel as I do... The secondary catches alot of grief, but when passers have 4+ seconds to distribute the ball...heads need to roll up front, dlinemen and coach... John Jenkins' injury was probably more serious than Payton would tip his hand and I like his size moving forward; Bunkley's injury, cap hit may necessitate finding a rotation mate at the nose tackle... The only defensive linemen I found displayed any real physical trait was Tyrunn Walker who has the best bull rush out of our defensive ends... And the biggest, unheralded loss on defense had to have been Glenn Foster... Foster not only spelled Jordan, he also brought a different skill set to challenge opposing linemen in addition to his own playmaking... We could move to a 4-3 to keep changing looks when Junior was ineffective... I totally understand your frustation, it piSSed me off all year watching us get slaudered like cattle at a slauder house. Foster was much better than I give him credit for. Were missing a few pieces. Bunkley underwhelmed the most to me all year, not saying the rest didn't. If we get someone in there to collapse the pocket on a consistant level we will be much better in about all aspects, still need lb.'s though.

01-07-2015, 06:19 PM	#174
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by Danno Looks like a great 1st round with plenty of options. Is there anyone in this preliminary top 25 list that you wouldn't be happy with, other than Winston? Beasley

01-07-2015, 06:22 PM	#175
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Beasley Agree, but the rest of that list looks pretty sweet eh? saintsfan1976 likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Not sold on Gregory, wary of "tweener" DE, LBers Collins is a solid safety, for a low second, high third, but our problem is front seven on defense... Shane Ray, Al Dupree, and Fowler are all Junior Galette with polish, maybe without the SweetPea accessory - no thanks... Melvin Gordon, pass, no RB's with a one or two, maybe a three, but our offense doesn't need that type - Peterson is a freak, they're just not laying around like that... If we draft a WR, y'all may here my head explode and inaudible yelpish noise that alludes to the name "Millen"... Really like NT Malcolm Brown, but not with a first rounder that high... Peat is an athletic freak, but is his heart in the game?!? If available, I'm Liking LB Shaq Thompson, then OT Brandon Scherff, LB Benardrick McKinney, maybe moved down a few spots for CB P.J. Williams... hagan714 likes this.
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01-07-2015, 07:23 PM	#177
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? I'd like to see Hicks at NT with Walker and Jordan at DE. Keep Harralson, add an OLB and ILB - one drafted, one via FA. Keep Robinson as camp competition, add a #2 CB in FA.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round. Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast. halloween 65, Mr.Riaton and brees84 like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by K Major Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round. Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast. He might go up at the combine. I hope we get him. Mr.Riaton likes this.

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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by K Major Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round. Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast. I just watched highlights on him and I am freaking impressed....even more than McKinney. I have no idea why he is projected as a 2nd rounder except maybe for his height (6 ft). I would LOVE to have this guy on our team! From what I can see,he would be worth a first rounder.

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