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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too....

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Old 03-15-2015, 12:21 AM   #1
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I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too.
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I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too.
You gonna tell us who?!
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Im not saying get a Dez Bryant and force the ball but we need something to worry teams wide imo. I haven't watched the late pick WR this year but i dont see many that carry that size/speed combination. Hey many we can find a Anquan Bolden somewhere in the mid to late rounds that can win contested balls and keep the field spread.
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Im not saying get a Dez Bryant and force the ball but we need something to worry teams wide imo. I haven't watched the late pick WR this year but i dont see many that carry that size/speed combination. Hey many we can find a Anquan Bolden somewhere in the mid to late rounds that can win contested balls and keep the field spread.
Lee, when we won the Superbowl, what were our receiving options?!?

A 6' 4", averaged speed, sure-handed, large catch-radius, seventh round pick...

A 5' 9", slow, sure-handed, over-looked, rookie UDFA Cleveland Browns cast-off...

A 5' 11", fast, former regime second round in-state reach, stone-hands reclamation...

An overpaid, hung-over party clown which Loomis acquired after having been @$$-raped by the Giants GM...

And a first round pick that showed up to camp - out of shape...

What we did have were...

Two All-Pro Young Studs at Guard...

Two Next Level Athletic Tackles...

A stable of diversed-talent running backs...

Let's get a stout defense that's not described in terms of speed-bump or safety cones...

Let's get a defense that can get the ball back and move the average starting position of possession drives mid-field rather than our own 20 yard line...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:02 AM   #5
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And if you want another Jimmy Graham type, I've got one mocked in the fifth round in Blake Bell...

And with Falcon fans reading this, we'll probably have to move up to get him...
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And if you want another Jimmy Graham type, I've got one mocked in the fifth round in Blake Bell...

And with Falcon fans reading this, we'll probably have to move up to get him...
While i understand your point & its valid, there is no sure handed 6'4 WR talent late or mid round. That would only be the top 6 guys maybe. That kind of stuff is rare. & Blake Bell is intriguing, but there is a reason he can be had in the 6th round...he's a project. but we're trying to get the best of Drews last few years, which isnt the same Drew we had back in '09. Its evident he's lost velocity & some of his deep ball. I was watching the Superbowl game the other day & was in awe of the zip he had back then. Good stuff. Id be just fine with an elite WR pick at 13, but at the same time be overjoyed to land a Scherff, Collins, Beasley, Fowler, etc. its whatever with me though...
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While i understand your point & its valid, there is no sure handed 6'4 WR talent late or mid round. That would only be the top 6 guys maybe. That kind of stuff is rare.

Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas, 6' 4", 214 lbs
Jordan Taylor, Rice, 6' 4", 204 lbs
Austin Hill, Arizona, 6' 2", 210 lbs*
Jake Kumerow, Wisconsin-Whitewater, 6' 5", 208 lbs.

*Scouting reports, comments that his catch radius is that of someone 6' 6"
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Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas, 6' 4", 214 lbs
Jordan Taylor, Rice, 6' 4", 204 lbs
Austin Hill, Arizona, 6' 2", 210 lbs*
Jake Kumerow, Wisconsin-Whitewater, 6' 5", 208 lbs.

*Scouting reports, comments that his catch radius is that of someone 6' 6"
Just having a quick look at scouting reports for them players.
My worry with any of these is we could easily just end up with another player who ends up on the practice squad. You can get talent late as we have all seen but there is always a reason these players are ranked were they are. Get what you need locked up in FA and early in the draft then take chances late on.


Take Colston and Ben Watson away from our TE/WR group and including Cooks everyone off them combined has Receptions 103,Yards 1162,TD 10.

Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas, 6' 4", 214 lbs

40 -4.58 SEC
bech-16 REPS
vert-33.5 INCH
broad-119.0 INCH
3 cone-7.11 SEC
20 shuttle -4.28 SEC
60 shuttle- 11.63 SEC

6'4" HEIGHT
32 1/2" ARM LENGTH
214LBS. WEIGHT
9 7/8" HANDS

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Good height and overall size. High points and uses his length. Good forward lean into routes and gets cornerbacks to open up before breaking routes off. Uses same route pace for verticals and stick routes. Long-armed hands-catcher who extends to snatch ball early and get upfield. Satisfactory speed and foot quickness for his size. Weak-armed quarterback forced him to learn to work back to the throw. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder.

WEAKNESSES
Overwhelmed smaller competition at cornerback. Level of competition will be questioned. Too reliant on length downfield and doesn't display consistent leaping ability. Allowed cornerbacks to challenge and deflect throws rather than going up over them. Ran only a few basic routes. Scouts showing some concern over toughness, noting willingness to run out of bounds rather than finishing runs after catch.

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!
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Jimmy Graham was a project, and was considered a HUGE reach...that worked out nicely...

We have no, none, nada, game changers on defense...

Our best defenders Keenan Lewis and Cam Jordan are really good, underrated players...

I've seen one play since both were in a Saints uniform that made me geaux "WOW" and that was Cam Jordan on that bull rush play this season; otherwise very solid, dependable players...

Let's spend those early picks on players that are going to win us the line of scrimmage, get us the ball back...

Brandon Scherff is the only guy I'd take high and that's if Beasley is off the board and we can't trade back in the first to get another TRUE 6-2+ outside linebacker (not some one-dimension pass rusher) and pick up a second, third round pick in the process...

Scherff is gonna be a guard, right tackle at best, and I really hate spending that high a pick on an interior lineman; if he was gonna take the job from Terron Armstead, that'd be different...

Plenty of talent in the mid-to-late rounds for offensive line and where I'd take them if they're there...

OL Jake Fisher, Oregon, 6' 6", 306 lbs. (R3)

OL Ali Marpet, Hobart, 6' 4", 307 lbs. (R3)

OL Max Garcia, Florida, 6' 4", 309 lbs. (R3)

OL Mitch Morse, Missouri, 6' 5", 305 lbs (R4)

OL Tyler Moore, Florida, 6' 5", 320 lbs. (R4)

OL Jeremiah Poutasi, 6' 5", 335 lbs. (R5)

OL John Miller, Louisville, 6' 2", 303 lbs (R5)

OL Kaleb Johnson, Rutgers, 6' 4", 305 lbs (R5)

OL Austin Shepherd, Alabama, 6' 4", 315 lbs (R6)

OL Mark Glowinski, West Virginia, 6' 4", 307 lbs (R6)

OL Jake Cotton, Nebraska, 6' 6", 305 lbs (R6)

Cole Manhart, Nebraska-Kearney, 6' 3", 305 lbs (R7)

If we could get say three of these guys with our mid to late picks, we will be in good shape...

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