2015 draft??

lee909 · 03-14-2015, 12:26 PM

Fanspeak
I'd be over the moon with this
Thiugh i consider a guard in 3rd

13: R1/P13
DE SHANE RAY
MISSOURI

31: R1/P31
WR DEVANTE PARKER
LOUISVILLE

44: R2/P12
ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN
MIAMI

75: R3/P11
TE CLIVE WALFORD
MIAMI

78: R3/P14
DT CARL DAVIS
IOWA

140: R5/P12
CB LORENZO DOSS
TULANE

146: R5/P18
ILB TAIWAN JONES
MICHIGAN STATE

171: R6/P11
OT TYRUS THOMPSON
OKLAHOMA

205: R7/P13
QB SEAN MANNION
OREGON STATE

jeanpierre · 03-14-2015, 03:43 PM

Let the other kids (teams) draft Shane Ray, Gregory, and Dupree...

Won't no part of 'tweeners'...

Payton got his WR last year, let that **** rest...

Besides, there are plenty of good WR that could be found in mid rounds to augment what we have...

Further, we're never gonna develop any WR if we don't get guys like Toon, Coleman, and Jones some reps/touches on the field...

K Major · 03-14-2015, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Payton got his WR last year, let that **** rest...

Besides, there are plenty of good WR that could be found in mid rounds to augment what we have...

Further, we're never gonna develop any WR if we don't get guys like Toon, Coleman, and Jones some reps/touches on the field...

^^^ This.

To think the Saints would reach for another WR with the first pick is baffling.
At some point, Toon and Coleman must step up.

hagan714 · 03-14-2015, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^ This.

To think the Saints would reach for another WR with the first pick is baffling.
At some point, Toon and Coleman must step up.

first pick no need to reach i agree

still have cook as a toy for now. SP needs to start using him as a WR

lee909 · 03-14-2015, 11:47 PM

All this plenty of great receivers late. We have enough late round prospects on the roster. There is a reason most of these guys either went late or were UDFA. They either have size or speed not a combination of both.

Now im not saying getting a WR early is a must but we have lost around 2000 of our roughly 5000 receiving yards.

Call me strange but i dont fancy pinning my hopes on a small slot receiver and a ageing/banged uo receiver. Nick Toon has 21 career reception and this is his 4th season and he will be 27 during the season.

WillSaints81 · 03-15-2015, 12:21 AM

I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too.

ChrisXVI · 03-15-2015, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too.

You gonna tell us who?!

jeanpierre · 03-15-2015, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

All this plenty of great receivers late. We have enough late round prospects on the roster. There is a reason most of these guys either went late or were UDFA. They either have size or speed not a combination of both.

Now im not saying getting a WR early is a must but we have lost around 2000 of our roughly 5000 receiving yards.

Call me strange but i dont fancy pinning my hopes on a small slot receiver and a ageing/banged uo receiver. Nick Toon has 21 career reception and this is his 4th season and he will be 27 during the season.

Often the differences in a first round pick and a fourth round pick is where a player is on the development spectrum...

You're truly elite talent is among the first five to fifteen picks, depending on that year's draft's bumper crop...

Many of us have posted that we noticed Brees was "forcing the ball to Graham"...

You think that Payton hadn't noticed that as well?!?

Graham is such a big target to throw that Brees was not using his Payton-coached skills of checking down to the other receiving options...

If we can see this on rebroadcasts on NFLN, Payton surely can with the computer-aided game film that his full-time production staff can produce...

That software/game interface probably comes with Madden-script overlay and maybe even that 360° GoPano views...

Anyways crunching numbers to production, having only one ball per play from scrimmage, something had to give as talent had to be spread across the field on both sides of the ball...

But to change course mid-stream and spend a high pick on another offensive player (exception Scherff, Line of Scrimmage) after having sacrificed two players, one of which is likely to end up in the Hall of Fame, in the name of improving the defense is, well, self-defeating...

lee909 · 03-15-2015, 07:40 AM

Im not saying get a Dez Bryant and force the ball but we need something to worry teams wide imo. I haven't watched the late pick WR this year but i dont see many that carry that size/speed combination. Hey many we can find a Anquan Bolden somewhere in the mid to late rounds that can win contested balls and keep the field spread.

jeanpierre · 03-15-2015, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Im not saying get a Dez Bryant and force the ball but we need something to worry teams wide imo. I haven't watched the late pick WR this year but i dont see many that carry that size/speed combination. Hey many we can find a Anquan Bolden somewhere in the mid to late rounds that can win contested balls and keep the field spread.

Lee, when we won the Superbowl, what were our receiving options?!?

A 6' 4", averaged speed, sure-handed, large catch-radius, seventh round pick...

A 5' 9", slow, sure-handed, over-looked, rookie UDFA Cleveland Browns cast-off...

A 5' 11", fast, former regime second round in-state reach, stone-hands reclamation...

An overpaid, hung-over party clown which Loomis acquired after having been @$$-raped by the Giants GM...

And a first round pick that showed up to camp - out of shape...

What we did have were...

Two All-Pro Young Studs at Guard...

Two Next Level Athletic Tackles...

A stable of diversed-talent running backs...

Let's get a stout defense that's not described in terms of speed-bump or safety cones...

Let's get a defense that can get the ball back and move the average starting position of possession drives mid-field rather than our own 20 yard line...

03-14-2015, 12:26 PM	#551
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,776 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2015 draft?? Fanspeak I'd be over the moon with this Thiugh i consider a guard in 3rd 13: R1/P13 DE SHANE RAY MISSOURI 31: R1/P31 WR DEVANTE PARKER LOUISVILLE 44: R2/P12 ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN MIAMI 75: R3/P11 TE CLIVE WALFORD MIAMI 78: R3/P14 DT CARL DAVIS IOWA 140: R5/P12 CB LORENZO DOSS TULANE 146: R5/P18 ILB TAIWAN JONES MICHIGAN STATE 171: R6/P11 OT TYRUS THOMPSON OKLAHOMA 205: R7/P13 QB SEAN MANNION OREGON STATE

03-14-2015, 03:43 PM	#552
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Let the other kids (teams) draft Shane Ray, Gregory, and Dupree... Won't no part of 'tweeners'... Payton got his WR last year, let that **** rest... Besides, there are plenty of good WR that could be found in mid rounds to augment what we have... Further, we're never gonna develop any WR if we don't get guys like Toon, Coleman, and Jones some reps/touches on the field... hagan714, ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

03-14-2015, 04:51 PM	#553
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Payton got his WR last year, let that **** rest... Besides, there are plenty of good WR that could be found in mid rounds to augment what we have... Further, we're never gonna develop any WR if we don't get guys like Toon, Coleman, and Jones some reps/touches on the field... ^^^ This. To think the Saints would reach for another WR with the first pick is baffling. At some point, Toon and Coleman must step up. jeanpierre likes this.

03-14-2015, 06:17 PM	#554
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by K Major ^^^ This. To think the Saints would reach for another WR with the first pick is baffling. At some point, Toon and Coleman must step up. first pick no need to reach i agree still have cook as a toy for now. SP needs to start using him as a WR

03-14-2015, 11:47 PM	#555
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,776 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2015 draft?? All this plenty of great receivers late. We have enough late round prospects on the roster. There is a reason most of these guys either went late or were UDFA. They either have size or speed not a combination of both. Now im not saying getting a WR early is a must but we have lost around 2000 of our roughly 5000 receiving yards. Call me strange but i dont fancy pinning my hopes on a small slot receiver and a ageing/banged uo receiver. Nick Toon has 21 career reception and this is his 4th season and he will be 27 during the season. Sarik and brees84 like this.
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03-15-2015, 12:21 AM	#556
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 2015 draft?? I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I am currently looking up WR highlights from last season(well almost) and I have one that I just saw that is not slated to go in the first. In fact there is a lot to possibly like about him too. You gonna tell us who?! hagan714 likes this.

03-15-2015, 07:34 AM	#558
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by lee909 All this plenty of great receivers late. We have enough late round prospects on the roster. There is a reason most of these guys either went late or were UDFA. They either have size or speed not a combination of both. Now im not saying getting a WR early is a must but we have lost around 2000 of our roughly 5000 receiving yards. Call me strange but i dont fancy pinning my hopes on a small slot receiver and a ageing/banged uo receiver. Nick Toon has 21 career reception and this is his 4th season and he will be 27 during the season. Often the differences in a first round pick and a fourth round pick is where a player is on the development spectrum... You're truly elite talent is among the first five to fifteen picks, depending on that year's draft's bumper crop... Many of us have posted that we noticed Brees was "forcing the ball to Graham"... You think that Payton hadn't noticed that as well?!? Graham is such a big target to throw that Brees was not using his Payton-coached skills of checking down to the other receiving options... If we can see this on rebroadcasts on NFLN, Payton surely can with the computer-aided game film that his full-time production staff can produce... That software/game interface probably comes with Madden-script overlay and maybe even that 360° GoPano views... Anyways crunching numbers to production, having only one ball per play from scrimmage, something had to give as talent had to be spread across the field on both sides of the ball... But to change course mid-stream and spend a high pick on another offensive player (exception Scherff, Line of Scrimmage) after having sacrificed two players, one of which is likely to end up in the Hall of Fame, in the name of improving the defense is, well, self-defeating...
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03-15-2015, 07:40 AM	#559
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,776 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2015 draft?? Im not saying get a Dez Bryant and force the ball but we need something to worry teams wide imo. I haven't watched the late pick WR this year but i dont see many that carry that size/speed combination. Hey many we can find a Anquan Bolden somewhere in the mid to late rounds that can win contested balls and keep the field spread.

03-15-2015, 08:00 AM	#560
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by lee909 Im not saying get a Dez Bryant and force the ball but we need something to worry teams wide imo. I haven't watched the late pick WR this year but i dont see many that carry that size/speed combination. Hey many we can find a Anquan Bolden somewhere in the mid to late rounds that can win contested balls and keep the field spread. Lee, when we won the Superbowl, what were our receiving options?!? A 6' 4", averaged speed, sure-handed, large catch-radius, seventh round pick... A 5' 9", slow, sure-handed, over-looked, rookie UDFA Cleveland Browns cast-off... A 5' 11", fast, former regime second round in-state reach, stone-hands reclamation... An overpaid, hung-over party clown which Loomis acquired after having been @$$-raped by the Giants GM... And a first round pick that showed up to camp - out of shape... What we did have were... Two All-Pro Young Studs at Guard... Two Next Level Athletic Tackles... A stable of diversed-talent running backs... Let's get a stout defense that's not described in terms of speed-bump or safety cones... Let's get a defense that can get the ball back and move the average starting position of possession drives mid-field rather than our own 20 yard line... Saint in Aus likes this.
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