2015 draft??

jeanpierre · 04-03-2015, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hey Chris,
Who are you thinking (trade up)? Beasley ? Shelton?

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's the hard part. I think we can trade up to #7 by only giving up our 2nd round pick. If Chicago's on the clock and Beasley's still available then you bet I'd give Ryan Pace a call. Chicago's rebuilding their defense as well and I'm sure they wouldn't mind the extra 2nd round pick. Jump in front of the Failclowns and steal their guy!

Danny Shelton would be a good pick too and Cleveland at 12 is a threat to take him. We wouldn't need to climb as far for him.

Is there anyone you would be willing to trade up for?

Originally Posted by K Major

Agreed.

I would trade up for Danny S or Vic as well, otherwise stay put.

Pace can't make that trade because he's building a 3-4 in Chicago as well...

That's why we've got to reach way up...

In my mind, and I failed to mention this in my diatribe, the Future No. 1 was used but it could easily be either of Kenny Vaccaro or Cam Jordan...

As I posted on another thread, Bill Williamson, who's one of the more credible columnist, sorry, bloggers for you whiper-snappers, has 'pondered' moves regarding AFC West Teams before only to see moves very close to what he suggested come about...

Point is, I don't think he just sat at his desk and decided to stir up things, he may have some information that he based this column on...

If available, Cameron Jordan would make sense for Raiders to consider - Oakland Raiders Blog - ESPN

I'm not sure at this point the Saints are convinced, nor should they be, that Cam Jordan has proved worthy of a max contract (ghosts of Will Smith coming back for me); so maybe we move Jordan and get an impact pass rusher (my mock has Vic Beasley/Carl Davis teaming up on one side) and keep outta the salary cap trap till the stats, body of evidence is there to justify those salaries...

ChrisXVI · 04-03-2015, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If available, Cameron Jordan would make sense for Raiders to consider - Oakland Raiders Blog - ESPN

Interesting read... Thanks for posting that link! That's an angle I hadn't thought about. As if there could've possibly been more draft day scenario's to ponder now I have another one!

saintsfan1976 · 04-04-2015, 08:14 AM

This is the Scouts Inc top 32.

Bold is players I would absolutely avoid in round 1.

Player Pos. School Grade
1. Jameis Winston* QB Florida St 97
2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96
3. Amari Cooper* WR Alabama 93
4. Kevin White WR W Virginia 93
5. Marcus Mariota* QB Oregon 93
6. Randy Gregory* OLB Nebraska 93
7. Arik Armstead* DE Oregon 92
8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92
9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93
10. Andrus Peat* OT Stanford 90
11. DeVante Parker WR Louisville 92
12. Dante Fowler Jr.* DE Florida 92
13. Malcom Brown* DT Texas 91
14. Todd Gurley* RB Georgia 91
15. Shane Ray* OLB Missouri 91
16. Trae Waynes* CB Michigan St 91
17. Landon Collins* S Alabama 90
18. Cameron Erving C Florida St 90
19. Ereck Flowers* OT Miami (FL) 90
20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90
21. Marcus Peters* CB Washington 90
22. T.J. Clemmings T Pittsburgh 89
23. La'el Collins ? LSU 88
24. Breshad Perriman* WR UCF 89
25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89
26. Melvin Gordon* RB Wisconsin 89
27. Jaelen Strong* WR Arizona St 89
28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89
29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86
30. D. Green-Beckham* WR Missouri 88
31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88
32. Jalen Collins* CB LSU 88

jeanpierre · 04-04-2015, 08:18 AM

Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold?

The only ones I like in that group are

2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96
8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92
9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93
20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90
25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89
28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89
29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86
31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88

halloween 65 · 04-04-2015, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold?

The only ones I like in that group are

2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96
8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92
9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93
20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90
25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89
28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89
29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86
31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88

Goldman has been over-looked by a lot of people. He is solid.

saintsfan1976 · 04-04-2015, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold?

The only ones I like in that group are

2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96
8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92
9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93
20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90
25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89
28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89
29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86
31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88

I like Harold. You know that. Just not in round 1.

Now who I am sold on is Stephone Anthony! I have ZERO problem taking him at 31.

Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ??

Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) | Draft Breakdown

jeanpierre · 04-04-2015, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I like Harold. You know that. Just not in round 1.

Now who I am sold on is Stephone Anthony! I have ZERO problem taking him at 31.

Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ??

Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) | Draft Breakdown

That's pretty much my dream too...

I'd really like DL Carl Davis with those two...If that happened...

I'd be halfway across the country banging on Hagan's door drunk BEFORE he got the cork outta his own liquor...

K Major · 04-04-2015, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ??

Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) | Draft Breakdown

I went back and watched the entire game against FSU ... if I had to sum it up in a word on Anthony it would be explosive. Once coached up properly, he could be a serious LB in the NFL for many years.

"With the 31st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select ... ".

hagan714 · 04-04-2015, 11:25 PM

OT T.J. Clemmings (6-foot-4 3/4, 309 pounds), whom most analysts believe will go in the second half of the first round, has visits set up with the Denver Broncos, New Orleans Saints, and St. Louis Rams, according to a report from Foxsports.com. The Broncos, who pick 28th in the first round, are in need of a right tackle. Clemmings has played just two seasons along the offensive line but started as a junior and senior at right tackle for Pitt.

Report: Broncos among three teams to host OT T.J. Clemmings - NFL.com

not giving up on my OL yet.

jeanpierre · 04-05-2015, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

not giving up on my OL yet.

Nor should any of us...

If you're gonna spend a first round pick on a right tackle, I'd spend it on Oregon's Fisher...but I wouldn't waste it on the Pitt guy...

Should Colorado St's Ty Sambrailo falls to us with one of our third round picks, that'd be a gifted athlete to grab and best scenario...

Third Round targets include OU's Daryl Williams, Texas A&M's Cedric Ogbuehi, or Penn St's Donovan Smith...

The priority after initial FA and subsequent trades has to be that front seven in the defense (OLB, DE, ILB); it has got to be fortified, improved.

Some late round sleepers - Toledo's Chase Nelson and West Virginia's Mark Glowinski and Eastern Washington's Jake Rodgers...

Rodgers is the guy I've started taking a real interest in and someone I'd hope the Saints are as well...

04-03-2015, 05:25 PM	#791
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by K Major Hey Chris, Who are you thinking (trade up)? Beasley ? Shelton? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's the hard part. I think we can trade up to #7 by only giving up our 2nd round pick. If Chicago's on the clock and Beasley's still available then you bet I'd give Ryan Pace a call. Chicago's rebuilding their defense as well and I'm sure they wouldn't mind the extra 2nd round pick. Jump in front of the Failclowns and steal their guy! Danny Shelton would be a good pick too and Cleveland at 12 is a threat to take him. We wouldn't need to climb as far for him. Is there anyone you would be willing to trade up for? Originally Posted by K Major Agreed. I would trade up for Danny S or Vic as well, otherwise stay put. Pace can't make that trade because he's building a 3-4 in Chicago as well... That's why we've got to reach way up... In my mind, and I failed to mention this in my diatribe, the Future No. 1 was used but it could easily be either of Kenny Vaccaro or Cam Jordan... As I posted on another thread, Bill Williamson, who's one of the more credible columnist, sorry, bloggers for you whiper-snappers, has 'pondered' moves regarding AFC West Teams before only to see moves very close to what he suggested come about... Point is, I don't think he just sat at his desk and decided to stir up things, he may have some information that he based this column on... If available, Cameron Jordan would make sense for Raiders to consider - Oakland Raiders Blog - ESPN I'm not sure at this point the Saints are convinced, nor should they be, that Cam Jordan has proved worthy of a max contract (ghosts of Will Smith coming back for me); so maybe we move Jordan and get an impact pass rusher (my mock has Vic Beasley/Carl Davis teaming up on one side) and keep outta the salary cap trap till the stats, body of evidence is there to justify those salaries... K Major and brees84 like this.
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04-03-2015, 05:40 PM	#792
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre If available, Cameron Jordan would make sense for Raiders to consider - Oakland Raiders Blog - ESPN Interesting read... Thanks for posting that link! That's an angle I hadn't thought about. As if there could've possibly been more draft day scenario's to ponder now I have another one!

04-04-2015, 08:14 AM	#793
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? This is the Scouts Inc top 32. Bold is players I would absolutely avoid in round 1. Player Pos. School Grade 1. Jameis Winston* QB Florida St 97 2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96 3. Amari Cooper* WR Alabama 93 4. Kevin White WR W Virginia 93 *5. Marcus Mariota QB Oregon 93** 6. Randy Gregory* OLB Nebraska 93 *7. Arik Armstead DE Oregon 92** 8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92 9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93 10. Andrus Peat* OT Stanford 90 11. DeVante Parker WR Louisville 92 *12. Dante Fowler Jr. DE Florida 92 13. Malcom Brown* DT Texas 91** 14. Todd Gurley* RB Georgia 91 *15. Shane Ray OLB Missouri 91** 16. Trae Waynes* CB Michigan St 91 17. Landon Collins* S Alabama 90 18. Cameron Erving C Florida St 90 19. Ereck Flowers* OT Miami (FL) 90 20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90 21. Marcus Peters* CB Washington 90 22. T.J. Clemmings T Pittsburgh 89 23. La'el Collins ? LSU 88 24. Breshad Perriman* WR UCF 89 25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89 26. Melvin Gordon* RB Wisconsin 89 27. Jaelen Strong* WR Arizona St 89 28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89 29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86 *30. D. Green-Beckham WR Missouri 88 31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88** 32. Jalen Collins* CB LSU 88

04-04-2015, 08:18 AM	#794
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold? The only ones I like in that group are 2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96 8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92 9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93 20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90 25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89 28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89 29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86 31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold? The only ones I like in that group are 2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96 8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92 9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93 20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90 25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89 28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89 29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86 31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88 Goldman has been over-looked by a lot of people. He is solid. jeanpierre, K Major and MarchingOn like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold? The only ones I like in that group are 2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96 8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92 9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93 20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90 25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89 28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89 29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86 31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88 I like Harold. You know that. Just not in round 1. Now who I am sold on is Stephone Anthony! I have ZERO problem taking him at 31. Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ?? Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) \| Draft Breakdown jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I like Harold. You know that. Just not in round 1. Now who I am sold on is Stephone Anthony! I have ZERO problem taking him at 31. Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ?? Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) \| Draft Breakdown That's pretty much my dream too... I'd really like DL Carl Davis with those two...If that happened... I'd be halfway across the country banging on Hagan's door drunk BEFORE he got the cork outta his own liquor... hagan714, saintsfan1976 and Saint in Aus like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ?? Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) \| Draft Breakdown I went back and watched the entire game against FSU ... if I had to sum it up in a word on Anthony it would be explosive. Once coached up properly, he could be a serious LB in the NFL for many years. "With the 31st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select ... ". jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 not giving up on my OL yet. Nor should any of us... If you're gonna spend a first round pick on a right tackle, I'd spend it on Oregon's Fisher...but I wouldn't waste it on the Pitt guy... Should Colorado St's Ty Sambrailo falls to us with one of our third round picks, that'd be a gifted athlete to grab and best scenario... Third Round targets include OU's Daryl Williams, Texas A&M's Cedric Ogbuehi, or Penn St's Donovan Smith... The priority after initial FA and subsequent trades has to be that front seven in the defense (OLB, DE, ILB); it has got to be fortified, improved. Some late round sleepers - Toledo's Chase Nelson and West Virginia's Mark Glowinski and Eastern Washington's Jake Rodgers... Rodgers is the guy I've started taking a real interest in and someone I'd hope the Saints are as well...
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