ChrisXVI

There seems to be a lot of sentiment about a shift back to a 4-3 since we brought back Dennis Allen and never really seemed dedicated to acquiring the pieces to run a 3-4... But it was Sean Payton's decision to switch to a 3-4 so it's confusing. Ellerbe wasn't really a fit in Miami's 4-3 and we brought him in so I have to think we're finally going to commit to the 3-4.

hagan714

Ellerbe dead money in the last two years is ZERO. so how long he is around seems to be up to him and his play.

ChrisXVI

True... He may have underachieved in Miami after receiving a ridiculous contract and now he'll play harder regardless of scheme. I don't know... There are too many question marks at LB and even with a glut of picks I don't know if we'll be able to solve it. Ideally our LB's in a base 3-4 will look like this post draft:

Jack- Junior Galette (But hopefully not... I'm over him. Give me a different guy in the draft.)
Will- Dannell Ellerbe
Mike- Stephone Anthony
Sam- Anthony Spencer

TheDeuce

Wow, 91 pages huh?

This draft is going to be crazy because we have so many needs... I think I saw somebody mention that other than QB, RB, and S, there really isn't a position that I feel really good about. I don't think there will be an OL worth the value of the 13th pick when we come up, even though I think that may be our most important need. There are tons of high-end pass rushers in this draft, but the elite guys will probably be gone by 13. We could use another CB. We could use a WR. So many possibilities... if I was going to take a stab at it, I'd guess pass rusher with 13 and OL with 31... address WR and LB in 2nd and 3rd round since those appear to be pretty deep groups.

hagan714

I agree that is my biggest fear also. pretty shallow at the top of the draft it would appear.

now here is a twist. say we are sitting at 13 with nothing falling into our laps. all may not be lost

I see houston as a possible trade down. they and miami have pretty much the same shopping list. if both top RB are on the board we may get a call to move back a couple of spots.

houston
16 (1000), swap 51 (390) for 78 (200), ?????/

now we have two seconds and a third?

or do you take Todd Gurley at 13?

see i was ready to use a third on RB myself plus SP loves to over pay for a RB and well knee injuries are not what they use to be i guess.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

ChrisXVI

Thanks K Major! Great response. Paul Dawson has everything you would want in a player... But the draftniks make his attitude out to be some kind of problem. He kinda seems like Vilma.

lee909

I know the runours out yesterday said that nobody with character issues will be drafted early.

If Marcus Peters or Randy Gregory are there at 31 do you pull the trigger?

Seen this earlier from Mayock
[Quote]On TCU linebacker Paul Dawson, who the Saints saw during his college pro day in Fort Worth: "He's had a lot of questions about his football passion. In all honesty, I love the kid's tape, but he's going to get pushed down late 2, the mid 3, even slide into 4. People are killing his football character."[Quote]

He would be a steal with one of our 3rd rounders.

What would people think of say

1. BPA(Thinking Sherff/Collins/Shelton)
1 (31) Marcus Peters/Randy Gregory
2. Phillip Dorsett
3. Paul Dawson
3. Ali Marpet/Clive Walford

Some question marks but surely the value is there

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

jeanpierre

Since RB David Johnson has gotten press from this list, he's taken advantage and gained momentum as more teams have found out about his game...

Former UF DE Lynden Trail has the 'wow' size, but hasn't impressed, gained any momentum in interviews or pro-day, further he'll have to bulk up as he'll need to play DE and not OLB (Leo) as he did at his transferred college Norfolk...

DE Zach Wagenmann of Montana had begun to create some strong interest among a few teams but broke his foot recently during a private workout...

William & Mary WR Tre McBride may sneak into the third round...

Cole Manhart has intriguing athleticism for a big guy yet several scouts have noted that he seems to lack functional strength in his drills, exercises...

WR Jake Kumerow, who's got NFL bloodlines, may have gone to too small a school and looks like a late physical bloomer who will need development time to catch up to his peers...

QB Bryan Bennett may have made a poor choice in his transferred college and may have too large a development gap to catch on to an NFL team; his best shot may be a Jeff Garcia route and gain development via the CFL...

TE Mycole Pruitt is really more of an H-Back like that of former Vikings HB Jimmy Kleinsasser, but will benefit from a very shallow TE class this draft season and go higher than he should to a TE-needy NFL club...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

jeanpierre

Trae Waynes, Arik Armstead among overrated prospects - 2015 NFL draft

Disclosure: Written by Mike Renner, Pro Football Focus

1. Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State

2. Arik Armstead, DE, Oregon

3. Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa

4. Bud Dupree, LB, Kentucky

5. Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan

6. Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State

7. Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami

8. Shaq Thompson, S/LB, Washington

9. P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State

10. Benardrick McKinney, LB, Mississippi State

Note: It's worth commenting that PFF believes Scherff will be an outstanding interior lineman, guard, but that he's got a very poor skill set on the edge as a Tackle...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

jeanpierre

Tyler Lockett among underrated prospects - 2015 NFL Draft

Disclosure: Written by Gordon McGuinness, Pro Football Focus

1. Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State

2. Henry Anderson, DL, Stanford

3. Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas

4. Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson

5. Troy Hill, CB, Oregon

6. Tony Lippett, WR, Michigan State

7. Stephone Anthony, LB, Clemson

8. Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin

9. James Sample, S, Louisville

10. Christian Ringo, DT, Louisiana-Lafayette