2015 draft??

hagan714 · 03-18-2015, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I think Ray, Gregory and Dupree are in that same class as Dwight Freeney, Will Smith...

They will be feast or famine guys and I prefer effective, productive CONSISTENCY...

In addition they're 4-3 guys and those teams should select from that group...

Dupree is promising. at the pro level in a 34

i do not like either Ray or Gregory in a 34 set. i just see both as limited much like Jr. 43 sure i can see it better but 34? nope i just can not buy into it

jeanpierre · 03-18-2015, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Dupree is promising. at the pro level in a 34

i do not like either Ray or Gregory in a 34 set. i just see both as limited much like Jr. 43 sure i can see it better but 34? nope i just can not buy into it

Dupree is nearly identical to Freeney, and that's too one-dimensional for my taste...

ChrisXVI · 03-18-2015, 08:18 AM

With the Bears signing McPhee I think they would welcome an additional draft pick to help fill other holes in their transition to the 3-4.

jeanpierre · 03-18-2015, 08:28 AM

LOL...I reiterate, I hate, really hate taking a right tackle with the 13th pick of the draft...

Now, with regards to Jahri Evans and his cap number...

I'd pick up the phone and ask for the Rams second round pick and they take some of the hit for this year's number, or...

ask for their third round pick and OL Barrett Jones who's recoved from back surgery...

jcp026 · 03-18-2015, 09:52 PM

1st (13) NT Danny Shelton
1st (31) CB Marcus Peters
2nd (12) OLB Eli Harold
3rd (11) ILB Denzel Perryman
3rd (14) OG Tre Jackson
5th (12) DE Henry Anderson
5th (18) WR/TE Darren Waller
6th (11) OT Corey Robinson
7th (13) K Justin Manton

I wouldn't expect it to play out this way, but it looks doable with current projections. I think five of these guys might start immediately, six if you count the kicker.

jeanpierre · 03-18-2015, 10:07 PM

Can't see Harold, Perryman, Jackson and Anderson falling that far...

Harold won't get past 31...

Perryman won't get outta the second round...

Jackson is a second rounder as well...

Anderson may make it to the first quarter of the third round, but I think he's going second round...

The first two rounds are doable though...

And we've got way too many holes to spend a draft pick on a kicker...

jeanpierre · 03-21-2015, 04:36 PM

Mock Draft, Top Dozen Picks...

(01) TB QB Jameis Winston Florida State

(02) TN DL Leonard Williams Southern Cal

(03) JAX LB Dante Fowler Florida

(04) OAK WR Kevin White West Virginia

(05) WAS WR Dorial Green-Beckham Missouri

(06) NYJ QB Marcus Mariota Oregon

(07) CHI DL Danny Shelton Washington

(08) ATL DE Randy Gregory Nebraska

(09) NYG OL Brandon Scherff Iowa

(10) StL OL Lael Collins LSU

(11) MIN WR Amari Cooper Alabama

(12) CLE WR Devante Parker Louisville

lee909 · 03-21-2015, 04:41 PM

Vic Beasley it is then,i can live with that

hagan714 · 03-22-2015, 06:56 AM

Vic Beasley vs Trae Waynes

hmmm hard call. we have two big CB that lack on thing: speed

Beasley across from Jr scary thought pass rush wise.

draft Trae and that need foe speed on the outside at CB comes right off the board as an area of need also. that is 3 dam big CB right there

Only thing left to help in coverage and pass rush are

a sneaky quick nickle and
some DL help to build a solid rotation with.

Both can be had in this draft later too. I really like some of the late round players to address these needs.

I like the Trae pick more myself but Vic would be a pick were I would say "I understand the pick" the bench solved my only issue with the guy. small

dizzle88 · 03-22-2015, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Vic Beasley vs Trae Waynes

hmmm hard call. we have two big CB that lack on thing: speed

Beasley across from Jr scary thought pass rush wise.

draft Trae and that need foe speed on the outside at CB comes right off the board as an area of need also. that is 3 dam big CB right there

Only thing left to help in coverage and pass rush are

a sneaky quick nickle and
some DL help to build a solid rotation with.

Both can be had in this draft later too. I really like some of the late round players to address these needs.

I like the Trae pick more myself but Vic would be a pick were I would say "I understand the pick" the bench solved my only issue with the guy. small

I think Keenan has plenty of speed, he ran for stride for stride with Desean Jackson in the playoffs and completely took him out of the game

Still so many ways we could in the first round and I really don't hate any of them!

03-18-2015, 08:28 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre I think Ray, Gregory and Dupree are in that same class as Dwight Freeney, Will Smith... They will be feast or famine guys and I prefer effective, productive CONSISTENCY... In addition they're 4-3 guys and those teams should select from that group... Dupree is promising. at the pro level in a 34 i do not like either Ray or Gregory in a 34 set. i just see both as limited much like Jr. 43 sure i can see it better but 34? nope i just can not buy into it

03-18-2015, 08:29 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 Dupree is promising. at the pro level in a 34 i do not like either Ray or Gregory in a 34 set. i just see both as limited much like Jr. 43 sure i can see it better but 34? nope i just can not buy into it Dupree is nearly identical to Freeney, and that's too one-dimensional for my taste...

03-18-2015, 08:18 AM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2015 draft?? With the Bears signing McPhee I think they would welcome an additional draft pick to help fill other holes in their transition to the 3-4.

03-18-2015, 08:28 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? LOL...I reiterate, I hate, really hate taking a right tackle with the 13th pick of the draft... Now, with regards to Jahri Evans and his cap number... I'd pick up the phone and ask for the Rams second round pick and they take some of the hit for this year's number, or... ask for their third round pick and OL Barrett Jones who's recoved from back surgery...

03-18-2015, 09:52 PM	#5
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 953	Re: 2015 draft?? 1st (13) NT Danny Shelton 1st (31) CB Marcus Peters 2nd (12) OLB Eli Harold 3rd (11) ILB Denzel Perryman 3rd (14) OG Tre Jackson 5th (12) DE Henry Anderson 5th (18) WR/TE Darren Waller 6th (11) OT Corey Robinson 7th (13) K Justin Manton I wouldn't expect it to play out this way, but it looks doable with current projections. I think five of these guys might start immediately, six if you count the kicker.
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03-18-2015, 10:07 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Can't see Harold, Perryman, Jackson and Anderson falling that far... Harold won't get past 31... Perryman won't get outta the second round... Jackson is a second rounder as well... Anderson may make it to the first quarter of the third round, but I think he's going second round... The first two rounds are doable though... And we've got way too many holes to spend a draft pick on a kicker...
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03-21-2015, 04:41 PM	#8
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2015 draft?? Vic Beasley it is then,i can live with that

03-22-2015, 06:56 AM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Vic Beasley vs Trae Waynes hmmm hard call. we have two big CB that lack on thing: speed Beasley across from Jr scary thought pass rush wise. draft Trae and that need foe speed on the outside at CB comes right off the board as an area of need also. that is 3 dam big CB right there Only thing left to help in coverage and pass rush are a sneaky quick nickle and some DL help to build a solid rotation with. Both can be had in this draft later too. I really like some of the late round players to address these needs. I like the Trae pick more myself but Vic would be a pick were I would say "I understand the pick" the bench solved my only issue with the guy. small
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03-22-2015, 07:07 AM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 Vic Beasley vs Trae Waynes hmmm hard call. we have two big CB that lack on thing: speed Beasley across from Jr scary thought pass rush wise. draft Trae and that need foe speed on the outside at CB comes right off the board as an area of need also. that is 3 dam big CB right there Only thing left to help in coverage and pass rush are a sneaky quick nickle and some DL help to build a solid rotation with. Both can be had in this draft later too. I really like some of the late round players to address these needs. I like the Trae pick more myself but Vic would be a pick were I would say "I understand the pick" the bench solved my only issue with the guy. small I think Keenan has plenty of speed, he ran for stride for stride with Desean Jackson in the playoffs and completely took him out of the game Still so many ways we could in the first round and I really don't hate any of them!

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