SAINTS VS RAVENS Gameday Thread

[spkb25]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It's Payton's ability to maximize resources on the field that's gotten this team where it has achieved...

Really good point

[spkb25]

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Ryan is a goner.

Ya know Danno, I keep thinking it too, but something tells me SP likes him. I never wanted RR, and I ate crow after last year, but then look at this year, yikes! I have been screaming for romeo for years. Wish we had the guy, **** what is wade phillips up to these days? He's a good d-coord too

Time will tell if we let him go or not, but he was getting yelled at again last night

[billyt81]

In todays salary cap NFL, you cannot afford to overpay a player. Brees is paid like a top 5 player in the league. He will never be that again. Brees-overpaid, Colston-3r or 4th WR now, Jimmy Graham-overpaid, Bird=(whatever, ask Buffalo). Finally, we are one of the few teams in the league with no LSU players. The Cardinals have a bunch and they own the NFL's best record.

[dam1953]

Originally Posted by billyt81

Finally, we are one of the few teams in the league with no LSU players. The Cardinals have a bunch and they own the NFL's best record.

I've noticed this myself. Considering the talent that LSU has grown why don't we have any on D. I think a freshman LSU corner could cover better than any of the Saints.

[SaintsBro]

Originally Posted by BillyT

Finally, we are one of the few teams in the league with no LSU players. The Cardinals have a bunch and they own the NFL's best record.

This. And it's NOT just LSU. The Saints have too many players that are reaches, grasps, projects, and small school picks and UDFA's. Not enough meat and potatoes guys. It kinda feels like Loomis and Payton have just gotten too far out and crazy with this small school/reaching/grasping at straws stuff.

Look at how Dallas rebuilt their O line. They're all boring picks from BIG, established, big-name football schools -- Notre Dame, Mizzou, USC, Wisconsin, Texas. BIG schools. Well known programs. THere isn't a single "surprise" pick or weird school in the bunch. Then look at the Saints D and secondary -- yes I know this type of talent scouting occasionally works miracles, and you find gems in the rough, from small schools, especially thinking of unknown guys we found on offense like Colston or Pierre Thomas; but you're fooling yourself if you think that places like Memphis, Northwest Missouri State, Boston College and "Samford" are going to consistently produce elite legitimate pro level talent, like an SEC or Big 10 level program will produce. I blame Payton and Loomis for getting caught up in this type of butterfly-chasing, when it comes to these draft picks that are reaches or grasping at straws. They've outsmarted themselves.

[DrewDat]

I wouldn't be against trying to get Hastlett from DC

[|Mitch|]

Originally Posted by DrewDat

I wouldn't be against trying to get Hastlett from DC

I wouldn't be against a return by Dennis Allen(DC not secondary); I'd like to see him have the opportunity to bring whatever position coaches he wanted; not a fan of Joe Vitt or Bill Johnson as the LB/D-Line coaches...

[Halo]

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I wouldn't be against a return by Dennis Allen(DC not secondary); I'd like to see him have the opportunity to bring whatever position coaches he wanted; not a fan of Joe Vitt or Bill Johnson as the LB/D-Line coaches...

I don't like Dennis Allen either.
I'd like to see some for real draft picks on d-line, find a way to drop the payload of overpaid defenders (Byrd), and bring in a veteran LB and 1 more veteran corner. Lewis is all we have at corner. We're all Safeties and most aren't that great.

[|Mitch|]

Originally Posted by Halo

I don't like Dennis Allen either.

He did alright in 2011 as the Broncos DC; even had a hand in drafting Von Miller/Rahim Moore and signing Wesley Woodyard... I'd be satisfied...

[WillSaints81]

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

He did alright in 2011 as the Broncos DC; even had a hand in drafting Von Miller/Rahim Moore and signing Wesley Woodyard... I'd be satisfied...

They had a early draft pick where it was easy to get a big player. A broncos fan I play fantasy sports with says it makes all the difference when you have a really high pick and can get players like that. In a way this is another reason i would want to trade Graham so we can get a huge pick. We need for once to have 8 or more picks in a draft. We have not had a lot of picks in a while.