Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense

papz · 11-30-2014, 10:32 AM

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton and DC Rob Ryan "strongly dislike each other," and "change is inevitable this offseason."

Sources told La Canfora that the two men "hate" each other. Ryan turned around the defense last season, but the relationship between Ryan and Payton has deteriorated in a 4-7 season. They've gotten into multiple heated exchanges on the sideline and behind closed doors. Ryan will likely be fired. Ex-Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who worked under Payton in New Orleans before going to Denver, could be a candidate to replace Ryan. That's pure speculation on our part.

Source: CBS Sports

ChrisXVI · 11-30-2014, 10:43 AM

Firing Rob Ryan will piss off a lot of our players but it'll be their own damn fault.

brees84 · 11-30-2014, 10:43 AM

Damn, to bad some positional coaches are such a nice guys...

You can suck at doing your job but if you are good with Payton and have no backbone you are OK...

lee909 · 11-30-2014, 10:55 AM

My issue is the positional coaches especially special teams and Vitt seem to constantly get off the hook because they are close woth Payton. This will be the third DC sacked since 2011 the linebackers have stunk up the joint nearly every year yet its always the DC that takes the blame.

I do laugh at the reports saying how we have spent highly on the defense in rookie picks and free agents. plenty of money has been wasted yes but when was the last time the team took a LB in the first?. The scouts anf positional coaches need to go before Ryan but it wont happen.

lee909 · 11-30-2014, 11:02 AM

Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam

Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks

Its Greg Williams all over again.

Danno · 11-30-2014, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by papz

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton and DC Rob Ryan "strongly dislike each other," and "change is inevitable this offseason."

Sources told La Canfora that the two men "hate" each other. Ryan turned around the defense last season, but the relationship between Ryan and Payton has deteriorated in a 4-7 season. They've gotten into multiple heated exchanges on the sideline and behind closed doors. Ryan will likely be fired. Ex-Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who worked under Payton in New Orleans before going to Denver, could be a candidate to replace Ryan. That's pure speculation on our part.

Source: CBS Sports

Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?

ChrisXVI · 11-30-2014, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam

Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks

Its Greg Williams all over again.

Yeah I don't get the love for Allen either. Sure we had lots of interceptions in 2009 when he was secondary coach but I don't see anything that makes him an attractive DC option.

dizzle88 · 11-30-2014, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?

He may be, but I think its easy to see that Payton and Ryan are not getting on, which is to be expected because the whole team is a mess at this point.

Payton never seems to like anybody he hires after a year though, he and GW went at each others throats after the SB season.

spkb25 · 11-30-2014, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

3rd down conversions
Saints Offense - #2 in the NFL (Dallas #1)
Saints Defense -#32 in the NFL (Dead Freaking Last)

Even worse, to me, is that we are giving up like 3-18's and ****. I mean wtf?

brees84 · 11-30-2014, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?

Doesn't matter. Just in time for Saints game day preparations.

11-30-2014, 10:32 AM	#31
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton and DC Rob Ryan "strongly dislike each other," and "change is inevitable this offseason." Sources told La Canfora that the two men "hate" each other. Ryan turned around the defense last season, but the relationship between Ryan and Payton has deteriorated in a 4-7 season. They've gotten into multiple heated exchanges on the sideline and behind closed doors. Ryan will likely be fired. Ex-Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who worked under Payton in New Orleans before going to Denver, could be a candidate to replace Ryan. That's pure speculation on our part. Source: CBS Sports
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11-30-2014, 10:43 AM	#33
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Damn, to bad some positional coaches are such a nice guys... You can suck at doing your job but if you are good with Payton and have no backbone you are OK...
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11-30-2014, 10:55 AM	#34
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense My issue is the positional coaches especially special teams and Vitt seem to constantly get off the hook because they are close woth Payton. This will be the third DC sacked since 2011 the linebackers have stunk up the joint nearly every year yet its always the DC that takes the blame. I do laugh at the reports saying how we have spent highly on the defense in rookie picks and free agents. plenty of money has been wasted yes but when was the last time the team took a LB in the first?. The scouts anf positional coaches need to go before Ryan but it wont happen. ChrisXVI, Sarik and brees84 like this.
	"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks Its Greg Williams all over again.

11-30-2014, 11:07 AM	#36
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Originally Posted by papz CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton and DC Rob Ryan "strongly dislike each other," and "change is inevitable this offseason." Sources told La Canfora that the two men "hate" each other. Ryan turned around the defense last season, but the relationship between Ryan and Payton has deteriorated in a 4-7 season. They've gotten into multiple heated exchanges on the sideline and behind closed doors. Ryan will likely be fired. Ex-Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who worked under Payton in New Orleans before going to Denver, could be a candidate to replace Ryan. That's pure speculation on our part. Source: CBS Sports Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Firing Rob Ryan will piss off a lot of our players but it'll be their own damn fault.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Originally Posted by lee909 Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks Its Greg Williams all over again. Yeah I don't get the love for Allen either. Sure we had lots of interceptions in 2009 when he was secondary coach but I don't see anything that makes him an attractive DC option.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,357	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Originally Posted by Danno Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong? He may be, but I think its easy to see that Payton and Ryan are not getting on, which is to be expected because the whole team is a mess at this point. Payton never seems to like anybody he hires after a year though, he and GW went at each others throats after the SB season.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Originally Posted by Danno 3rd down conversions Saints Offense - #2 in the NFL (Dallas #1) Saints Defense -#32 in the NFL (Dead Freaking Last) Even worse, to me, is that we are giving up like 3-18's and ****. I mean wtf?

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense Originally Posted by Danno Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong? Doesn't matter. Just in time for Saints game day preparations.
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