Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense
 

It looked like Payton was saying I might as well run the damn defense because you sure as hell aren't doing it!

Sean Payton gets on Rob Ryan for poor defense (Video)

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Not a classy move but I think we are done with politeness at this point. Massive chunks of ground, mainly on 3rd down, 50, 40, 30 yard pops with nobody home. It's not bad defense, it's no defense when that is happening all the time.

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i maybe in the minority but that may have been the best game ROB has called to date. not saying much i know but i had too admit it

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3rd down conversions
Saints Offense - #2 in the NFL (Dallas #1)
Saints Defense -#32 in the NFL (Dead Freaking Last)

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Not just dead last, but historically bad.

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Are the coaches just finally running out of ideas?

I'm only guessing this but I would assume there must come a point for a coach where is seems like they have tried everything they can think of and there are no more pages left in the play book.

We keep hearing in the post game interviews that they are "studying the game tape" but not much seems to change the following week, especially on defence!

Its hard to believe that Drew racks up 420 yards passing and we score 27 points and STILL WE LOSE THE GAME!!!!

Hope things get better against the Steelers but I just don't see that happening at the moment.

I will always be a Saints supporter though, thats for sure!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

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its really bad when chucky was embarrassed of the lack of knowledge that the d.b.s displayed . the D.line getting gashed. rob ryan is not a very good coach, explains why he been bounced around the nfl. and will get bounced without a win coming fast. he will join bro, rex in that dreaded line nobody likes to stand in. I admit I liked the hire, the fire he had. i'm wrong hes turroble.

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I'm not a Rob fan, but Payton needs to look in the mirror. First, who hired Rob? Who drafted corners that can't cover? Who dumped half the 2013 No. 2 NFL pass D to get a "ball hawk" safety who is out for the season and didn't impress when he was on the field? Yes, last years secondary didn't get the picks, but compared to what we are fielding now, they would qualify for Canton.

And BTW, two weeks in a row the O can't score from one yard out. Give me a f*ing break. You would think that "one of the best play callers" in the NFL could figure our a way to get into the end zone from a yard out against the 29th ranked pass defense in the league. Here's a clue Sean, don't run.

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The defense has been bad since 2009,Payton needs to start looking closer to home before he blames yet another DC

How about a GM that isn't a glorified account

Looking for scouts that actually find talent

A linebacker coach that can actually get them playing well(have we had a top notch LB other than Vilam?)

Why is Greg McMahon still in a job

Bill Johnson has had how many job lines since he came here

Rick Reiprish has been living on the back of the 2006 for closing in on 10 years

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A G A I N

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If you can read lips Ryan kept saying #&$%...........he said #&$% repeatedly.

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Payton has to take his head out the ground...maybe...just maybe the problem isn't the D coordinator...maybe it's those surrounding the Coordinator...

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The body language of the team, and especially the coaching staff, is scary bad. Payton looks like he's been up for days (& probably has), Ryan looks like a beat down dog. I haven't seen or heard from loomis the entire season. Obviously there are problems, but there's got to be more to it. Something's amiss on Airline...

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Last night our chance to stop 3rd downs: 30%. No way we win anymore games until it goes up to at least 45-50. Brees and co would have to deliver an almost perfect display of offense to recover from it. So where does that leave us? Likely more of the same this late in the season. Everything that could have been done has been done. I honestly don't think there are anymore stones to look under.

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brees sucks, payton sucks, the defense really sucks and the fn worst player on the team, vaccaro sucks, finally you all get it

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Rob Ryan has been terrible but he isn't the one missing tackles

Vaccaro missed a tackle on the first play of the game for the ravens and it turned into a 40 yard run, right off the bat.

It's not only Robs fault, every single player has had a hand at losing games for us this year (except probably Keenan lewis)

Our defenders are dumb, overpaid, undersized and effortless

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i watched keenan lewis miss a whole bunch of tackles too. he sucks also

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You do realise that Keenan lewis is less than 50% healthy at the minute? He's playing on a leg injury that would have ended many others season, but he's being a competitor and staying out there anyway.

Keenan is the only defensive player that gives 110% every week, if we had 11 Keenan lewis' out there we'd be better than the 2000 ravens D.

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Time to update my list.:p

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And NEXT year we have to look forward to a...

REBUILDING YEAR

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Rob will be looking for a new job at the end of the season.

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I thought Carmichael was going to start calling plays again this year. Maybe it is time for him to do so. Hell let him take over defensive plays too while he is at it.

As head coach Payton needs to step in and call some defensive plays if what Rob is doing is not working. That is what head coaches are supposed to do. So before he starts yelling "I might as well do it" maybe he should have just done it.

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The defense isn't supposed to break their back bailing out baby Brees. It's like when I have to show my grandmother obituaries online she wants to see and do all the clicking and scrolling for her because she doesn't know how to operate a computer.

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Btw we lose Rob, say hello to falcons coach Rex. He will stick it to us.

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you make a valid point but these are the players Rob picked. Kenny is not a true safety and by all odds will never be a true safety. he is best as a pest. which i have to admit he is probably one of the best in the NFL. Safety is going to be an issue I think for a while despite keeping 6 of them this year.

I would not go that far.

One CB would long way to stopping the bleeding.

Keenan Lewis needs a playmate opposite of him. Greer going down has been such a huge hole that needs to be filled. That loss was bigger than most would have thought. That is why SJB is needed so badly. Yet the saints stopped there. So here we go again....

A solid rookie pick that can cover man on man is what is needed big time. Heck a solid veteran teir two FA CB could fill that role on the outside too. Got some really nice CB in the draft to fill this need right out of the gate in rounds 1 , 2 and 3. a few maybes later in the draft also.

But if Rob does the picking i fear they all will be as productive as the last two years of his picks.

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You watch us sack Ryan in the summer,draft players that play man to man and bring in a DC that plays zone

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:confused:
SIL-LY. Brees is still a great QB. He's doing his best to make up for the rest of the team's deficiencies and that's what I want him to do. If the Saints make him into a game manager, they're losing these games by blowouts.

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I don't think Reprish is gonna let a Coordinator pick his players. He may listen to Rob's advise, but I doubt seriously Rob Ryan is making any picks.

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Well it wasn't the call that that was the problem against the Ravens. Goodwin getting knocked into the backfield immediately and Ingram not attacking the hole behind Grubbs (like he was supposed to) doomed the play from the start. Not that the Ravens defense wasn't stout to start with anyway.

Can we please get a DISLIKE button added to our thread options....PLEASE.

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Guess we will be looking for yet another DC soon. Maybe we find some players that want to play while we are at it and a QB that quits putting the Defense in the hole with INT's and Pick6's.

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CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports coach Sean Payton and DC Rob Ryan "strongly dislike each other," and "change is inevitable this offseason."

Sources told La Canfora that the two men "hate" each other. Ryan turned around the defense last season, but the relationship between Ryan and Payton has deteriorated in a 4-7 season. They've gotten into multiple heated exchanges on the sideline and behind closed doors. Ryan will likely be fired. Ex-Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who worked under Payton in New Orleans before going to Denver, could be a candidate to replace Ryan. That's pure speculation on our part.

Source: CBS Sports

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Firing Rob Ryan will piss off a lot of our players but it'll be their own damn fault.

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Damn, to bad some positional coaches are such a nice guys...

You can suck at doing your job but if you are good with Payton and have no backbone you are OK...

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My issue is the positional coaches especially special teams and Vitt seem to constantly get off the hook because they are close woth Payton. This will be the third DC sacked since 2011 the linebackers have stunk up the joint nearly every year yet its always the DC that takes the blame.

I do laugh at the reports saying how we have spent highly on the defense in rookie picks and free agents. plenty of money has been wasted yes but when was the last time the team took a LB in the first?. The scouts anf positional coaches need to go before Ryan but it wont happen.

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Allen was a awful DC with the Broncos a terrible head coach with the Raiders why would we bring him back other than he is another loyal member of Paytons twam


Allen's Broncos were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks


Its Greg Williams all over again.

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Isn't La Canfora the guy that always wrong?

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Yeah I don't get the love for Allen either. Sure we had lots of interceptions in 2009 when he was secondary coach but I don't see anything that makes him an attractive DC option.

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He may be, but I think its easy to see that Payton and Ryan are not getting on, which is to be expected because the whole team is a mess at this point.

Payton never seems to like anybody he hires after a year though, he and GW went at each others throats after the SB season.

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Even worse, to me, is that we are giving up like 3-18's and ****. I mean wtf?

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Doesn't matter. Just in time for Saints game day preparations.