ESPN's Final QB Rankings

ScottyRo · 01-05-2005, 04:05 PM

All I\'m saying is based on your clearly stated feelings about AB, when I read the title to this thread, I knew AB was going to be ranked low and I was correct.

QB formulas are extremely hard to get right and this one is obviously flawed just as the QB rating system is flawed. What we really need to do is figure out exactly what stats are important and do our own - not that I want to spend the time doing it.

saintswhodi · 01-05-2005, 04:09 PM

I wouldn\'t mind doing that. So you find the regular qb ratings as flawed aslo? They do miss a lot of stats. Also, if I was here last year, despite my feelings on Brooks, I would have posted it, when he was high. I also lauded him for the Panthers game in another thread. I just think we need a change, that\'s all. I wasn\'t out to get him here though. If I was, I would have said so, as you can read elsewhere.

FireVenturi · 01-05-2005, 04:09 PM

Stat that is important is Td to int ratio, which i hate to say Ab did not do very well. Some will say wins and losses which is hard to do cause I think Trent Green is a good Qb but without a D and a hurt Priest he didn\'t get may wins. Its all by what ur opinion is

saintswhodi · 01-05-2005, 04:11 PM

I don\'t mind that Venturi, but last year AB was 3 to 1 TD to INT, but he led the league in fumbles and overall turnovers so that is flawed too.

FireVenturi · 01-05-2005, 04:13 PM

I don\'t mind that Venturi, but last year AB was 3 to 1 TD to INT, but he led the league in fumbles and overall turnovers so that is flawed too.

Agreed

FireVenturi · 01-05-2005, 04:16 PM

To the left they also rated special teams, and we came in second! Al Everst better be one that stays

ScottyRo · 01-05-2005, 04:20 PM

You definitely have to have a TD to turnover ratio. I prefer to see things like yards per attempted pass in it which will cover the need of putting in completion percentage and does not give the dinkers a whole lot of credit.

saintswhodi · 01-05-2005, 04:20 PM

Our special teams truly picked it up this year. I thought Beerman had lost it. He showed me a little more fire this year.

FireVenturi · 01-05-2005, 06:03 PM

You definitely have to have a TD to turnover ratio. I prefer to see things like yards per attempted pass in it which will cover the need of putting in completion percentage and does not give the dinkers a whole lot of credit.

U mean like Chadup Pennington?

01-05-2005, 04:05 PM	#11
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	ESPN's Final QB Rankings All I\'m saying is based on your clearly stated feelings about AB, when I read the title to this thread, I knew AB was going to be ranked low and I was correct. QB formulas are extremely hard to get right and this one is obviously flawed just as the QB rating system is flawed. What we really need to do is figure out exactly what stats are important and do our own - not that I want to spend the time doing it.

01-05-2005, 04:09 PM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	ESPN's Final QB Rankings I wouldn\'t mind doing that. So you find the regular qb ratings as flawed aslo? They do miss a lot of stats. Also, if I was here last year, despite my feelings on Brooks, I would have posted it, when he was high. I also lauded him for the Panthers game in another thread. I just think we need a change, that\'s all. I wasn\'t out to get him here though. If I was, I would have said so, as you can read elsewhere.

01-05-2005, 04:09 PM	#13
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	ESPN's Final QB Rankings Stat that is important is Td to int ratio, which i hate to say Ab did not do very well. Some will say wins and losses which is hard to do cause I think Trent Green is a good Qb but without a D and a hurt Priest he didn\'t get may wins. Its all by what ur opinion is

01-05-2005, 04:11 PM	#14
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	ESPN's Final QB Rankings I don\'t mind that Venturi, but last year AB was 3 to 1 TD to INT, but he led the league in fumbles and overall turnovers so that is flawed too.

01-05-2005, 04:13 PM	#15
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	ESPN's Final QB Rankings I don\'t mind that Venturi, but last year AB was 3 to 1 TD to INT, but he led the league in fumbles and overall turnovers so that is flawed too. Agreed

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01-05-2005, 04:16 PM	#16
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	ESPN's Final QB Rankings To the left they also rated special teams, and we came in second! Al Everst better be one that stays

01-05-2005, 04:20 PM	#17
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	ESPN's Final QB Rankings You definitely have to have a TD to turnover ratio. I prefer to see things like yards per attempted pass in it which will cover the need of putting in completion percentage and does not give the dinkers a whole lot of credit.

01-05-2005, 04:20 PM	#18
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	ESPN's Final QB Rankings Our special teams truly picked it up this year. I thought Beerman had lost it. He showed me a little more fire this year.

01-05-2005, 06:03 PM	#19
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	ESPN's Final QB Rankings You definitely have to have a TD to turnover ratio. I prefer to see things like yards per attempted pass in it which will cover the need of putting in completion percentage and does not give the dinkers a whole lot of credit. U mean like Chadup Pennington?