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papz 12-21-2014 03:47 PM

What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Mail it in for a higher pick or finish the season on a high note?

brees84 12-21-2014 03:49 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
"You play to win the game"

dizzle88 12-21-2014 03:50 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I think we don't intentionally mail it in, I just think the bucs beat us anyway lol

lee909 12-21-2014 03:50 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Give the players that you need to see a game
Powell,Kasim Edebali,Baptise etc all should see time.Id like to see if Ryan Griffin is good enough to be the number 2 next year aswell

blackangold 12-21-2014 03:51 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Some things I want to see:

SJB starting- need to see what he can do.

Lelito starting- should have been all year.

Bress on the bench- no point in getting him hurt.

New Guards playing as well- Sergio is one that needs to start.

Virgel starting- again I would like to see what he can do.

Bottom line is we need to get the young guys out there to see what we have.

papz 12-21-2014 03:52 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 633117)
Give the players that you need to see a game
Powell,Kasim Edebali,Baptise etc all should see time.Id like to see if Ryan Griffin is good enough to be the number 2 next year aswell

I like it. Kill two birds with one stone. Higher draft pick and see some player development.

Halo 12-21-2014 03:53 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I don't think we have a choice. Most teams are professionals and prepare to win. That doesn't mean the team will perform.

I would like to see a game where non-starters start. Lord knows we already know what the starters can and can't do.

nola_swammi 12-21-2014 03:57 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 633114)
"You play to win the game"

This game I play players I want to evaluate for next yr like jean Baptiste, Saunders, and players like Brees I will take out after the half. Evaluating players take precedent over trying win.

W. Kovacs 12-21-2014 03:58 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
i dont think the goal should be to get a higher pick (especially since our FO will probably waste it, anyway).

As others have said, though, we should see what some of the young guys can do and get some playing experience for the guys who need it.

Not to mention avoiding major injuries.

LivnaLieTimay 12-21-2014 04:02 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I'm with a few others thinking that we need to start a bunch of the young guys including Griffin. Ultimately a loss will really help this team in terms of draft positioning and knowing the way this season has gone we'll have one of our most dominating games of the season haha. Win or lose, a lot of young guys need to see the field.

brees84 12-21-2014 04:06 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I wan't to see young guys also. That doesn't mean they will lose the game. lol

dizzle88 12-21-2014 04:07 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 633132)
I wan't to see young guys also. That doesn't mean they will lose the game. lol

I have absolutely no doubt the younger guys will show more heart on gameday than our starters.

blackangold 12-21-2014 04:09 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 633128)
i dont think the goal should be to get a higher pick (especially since our FO will probably waste it, anyway).

As others have said, though, we should see what some of the young guys can do and get some playing experience for the guys who need it.

Not to mention avoiding major injuries.

it's not just one higher pick... it's a higher pick in every round that we can blow lol

halloween 65 12-21-2014 04:10 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Dizzle your on a roll, I like it!!

cmike 12-21-2014 04:13 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 633127)
This game I play players I want to evaluate for next yr like jean Baptiste, Saunders, and players like Brees I will take out after the half. Evaluating players take precedent over trying win.

No way Brees sits until he goes over 5000. I'd rather he not play at all.

blackangold 12-21-2014 04:18 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
for the love of God not a poll question....NOOOOOOO

neugey 12-21-2014 04:20 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Start the second and third stringers. See what they've got in what is effectively an exhibition game. Give Khiry a lot of carries and see what Ryan Griffin can do.

Mr.Riaton 12-21-2014 04:23 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I don't believe we miss on our draft picks as much as our inability to coach them up. We have plenty of talent on both sides of the ball. We need to replace some aging,non-productive players,but we also need some new life on our coaching staff.

papz 12-21-2014 04:25 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 633149)
I don't believe we miss on our draft picks as much as our inability to coach them up. We have plenty of talent on both sides of the ball. We need to replace some aging,non-productive players,but we also need some new life on our coaching staff.

I concur. You can draft some of most talented players in the draft, and we have, but it doesn't mean squat unless you're able to coach them up to their abilities.

spkb25 12-21-2014 04:27 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 633114)
"You play to win the game"

except when there's c=nothing to play for and losing gets youa higher draft pick lol :)

xan 12-21-2014 04:42 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Where was the choice for "FORFEIT" ?

Foot Stomper 12-21-2014 05:05 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Obvious to me is you play all of the young guys. Hopefully learn who wants to be here and come up short on the scoreboard. I would certainly sit Gallete to eliminate that bonus. I would sit Drew and make him think about the INT"s all offseason. Unless Jordan has incentives I would play till his tongue was dragging the turf. Every D snap, all ST's and maybe even make him play some on Offense. Make him so frustrated he quits for good.

Rugby Saint II 12-21-2014 06:12 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Never mail it in. Bring your A game with you B side. Take one of the guards out each half and see which one is the weakest link or who performs better when the other guard isn't in the game. Most likely one of them is gone next year. Also, let me see what Lelito has for crying out loud.....Sit Goodwin.

OldMaid 12-21-2014 06:12 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 633114)
"You play to win the game"


I agree. I do not agree with with , well, let it go for a higher pick.

Saints will be in high draft as it is.

You play to win each game and they should play to win each game and each qrtr.

That seems part of the many problems for this year.:pissed:

"Oh well, the other guy is running too fast and is almost in the redzone so I'll just do a light jog behind my opponent.":confused:

"Oppsy daisy. I dropped the ball...again."


Finishing 8-8 would been good to be .500 , save face, some kind of pride.
Now, they are 6-9.
Next week, 7-9 or 6-10.
I think 7-9 is better, but still a losing season and still mailing it in for an unproven draft picks, trades, regrouping, etc. for 2015.

UK_WhoDat 12-21-2014 06:14 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Play the kids and then what is, is.

OldMaid 12-21-2014 06:17 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 633145)
Start the second and third stringers. See what they've got in what is effectively an exhibition game. Give Khiry a lot of carries and see what Ryan Griffin can do.

Good idea. Let these guys get out there on the public field and try to secure their place for next year. Maybe they can stay on Saints practice field or maybe go elsewhere . Maybe some can show up and out too . Being hungry 2nd, 3rd string can make you do that.

AllSaints 12-21-2014 06:39 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Stay healthy .... Could care less with a Win loss it doesn't matter I don't think a win will help us going into next year....

WillSaints81 12-21-2014 07:06 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
In case Carolina wins, I would want to win out to avoid the third place curse.

saintsfan1976 12-21-2014 07:08 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 633161)
Where was the choice for "FORFEIT" ?

HA.. This is your fault man. All of sudden you found some hope... YOU - of all people!!

This loss is on you Xan.

saintsfan1976 12-21-2014 07:09 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Treat it like week 4 of the preseason.

Jack Vegas 12-21-2014 11:33 PM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I really want to see Lelito at center. It is incomprehensible to me that Goodwin was never benched for his pathetic play. Equally comprehensible that we are signing street free agents and practice squad guys when SJB hasn't seen a single snap all year.

nola_swammi 12-22-2014 12:54 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
I agree with you totally but Fredrick is good

hagan714 12-22-2014 02:07 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
for the love of god just please do not stink up the place

i can not take any more. hey we are on the road so we have a chance of looking good.

we at least accomplished that goal this year

we killed the road monkey

leilung 12-22-2014 04:35 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
You need to get some position players on the field (ie. QB, CB) to show what potential they have. Trust me, TB will NOT be trying to win this game, so we might as well bench some starters to get a look at some of these other players who we have questions on.

Audiotom 12-22-2014 04:53 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
let Brees go after 5,000 yards

it's meaningless like 2012 but it shines up his Canton plaque

sarq\

Ashley 12-22-2014 05:20 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Agree sit damn near the whole freaking team, play all 2nd and 3rd string. Bring up the practice squad players as well

dizzle88 12-22-2014 07:24 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Get Ingram 1000 yards because he'll be the first saint since 2006 to do so

Play mostly young players at the skill positions

Start Ryan griffin and get the ball to Jalen Saunders

saintsfan1976 12-22-2014 07:42 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Give these fools SJB so they'll stop begging to watch a raw, young kid ruin his confidence.

stickman 12-22-2014 08:10 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Play your starters. Find out who plays hard and who phones it in, use this to help make personnel decisions in the off season.

nola_swammi 12-22-2014 08:41 AM

Re: What to do next week versus Tampa?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 633387)
Give these fools SJB so they'll stop begging to watch a raw, young kid ruin his confidence.

If his confidence be shot after playing a meaningless game and mentally can't recover from it during the offseason he a waisted 2nd rd pick. Players like Fredrick & Dixon which weren't drafted could play certainly a 2nd rd pick should be able, plus this a game he can gain some experience


Correction: Fredrick was a 7th rd pick last yr


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