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saintshrimp 12-21-2014 04:57 PM

Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
I understand the disappointment and heartache but my god stop the childish whining already. Did you really think that we were going to be a contender in the playoffs from the first month of the season you should have known that this year was going to be bad so this shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. This has been coming for a while now there has been no real changes to the play book they are predictable plain and simple. The offense has been the Drew and Jimmy show way to much the last few years. Sean and staff have to get back to spreading the ball around to differnt guys. We need a big tall wr while I like cooks we could have used a big tall wr more. Look at our wideouts after Colston they are pretty much all small guys size wise On the defensive side of the ball they really haven't adressed the awful linebacker and cornerback position yes added to the safety position but the weakest link is at corner and linebacker on defense has been for years. Last years defense was a fluke that set the team back that came back to haunt them this year

dizzle88 12-21-2014 05:06 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
O line is the biggest need, first and foremost

The defense held the falcons to 13 points for nearly 4 full quarters, however the lack of pass rush is really disturbing

Linebacker and cornerback are huge needs

Number 1 receiver in the mold of AJ green, Julio Jones would help massively.

Rugby Saint II 12-21-2014 05:13 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Aaron Rodgers is that you?

saintshrimp 12-21-2014 05:14 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Not being able to stop the local high school team is the #1 problem.

The o line is a problem yes but not the biggest

OldMaid 12-21-2014 05:47 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Playoffs. Who cares!
SB...get real and that is for any team. Pipedream.
Even now, for those teams who have clinched a spot and division title, still it is too far to say how playoffs will turn out and what team is SB bound.

What did I, we expect with all this expensive talent that Saints have for 2014 season?

A decent year.
No team can win them all. Of course , they would lose some games by close points and some really badly.
Common sense.

Saints should have, with all of the expensive talent they have, been at least 9-7 in their pitiful division.
Did I mention that the Saints sure have paid out some huge contracts for some expensive that did not produce much on the field?

Even with the year going as it has for the Saints in their pitiful division, they should have gone 8-8. At least.
To lose to AF at the DomeHome and making those comedy of errors when they were out there supposedly working, are that what annoys us all.
That is what I think.

AllSaints 12-21-2014 06:33 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Offense sucked today... cant blame the Defense for this one... They played fairly well.... Hurry up offense we score.... but its takes us 3 quarters to get into it !!!! I don't understand...

saintsfan1976 12-21-2014 07:10 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 633175)
Not being able to stop the local high school team is the #1 problem.

The o line is a problem yes but not the biggest

The worst defense in the NFL harassed Drew Brees all day. The O line is a MAJOR problem.

Rell&Gold 12-21-2014 07:23 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 633169)
I understand the disappointment and heartache but my god stop the childish whining already. Did you really think that we were going to be a contender in the playoffs from the first month of the season you should have known that this year was going to be bad so this shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. This has been coming for a while now there has been no real changes to the play book they are predictable plain and simple. The offense has been the Drew and Jimmy show way to much the last few years. Sean and staff have to get back to spreading the ball around to differnt guys. We need a big tall wr while I like cooks we could have used a big tall wr more. Look at our wideouts after Colston they are pretty much all small guys size wise On the defensive side of the ball they really haven't adressed the awful linebacker and cornerback position yes added to the safety position but the weakest link is at corner and linebacker on defense has been for years. Last years defense was a fluke that set the team back that came back to haunt them this year

Childish whining? More like expressing disappointment in my team for losing a playoff deciding game.

Tell me 3 plays out the saints play book that you know predictable no execution is poor doesn't matter if you know what we're doing you still have to stop it

Spreading the ball Drew is the Best at spreading the ball

Who assumes that there team after one month of football is incapable of making the playoffs tell that to the giants

Our front seven is our weakest link on defense


Since when do you need a 6'5 wideout to have a successful offense?

Rell&Gold 12-21-2014 07:25 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Maybe an O-line would help idk could be wrong

ClintSaints 12-21-2014 07:27 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
It's not childish to point out that we had a touchdown taken away from us.

It's called being logical and observant.

That's two games that were literally ripped away from us in my view. It's a pattern and Goddell has it in for us, as does Blandino.

Danno 12-21-2014 07:28 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Our offense needs a little help, our defense needs a lot of help

hagan714 12-21-2014 07:29 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
we got swept by our longest rival in the division what more need to said.

the saints need to be reminded dayle the shame they have brought to the city every day till they beat the falcons in 2015.

any one know a build board business with signs to rent by the saints facility?

Swept By The Falcons!
Can't get any lower than that.

in big bold letters

Danno 12-21-2014 07:36 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 633219)
Offense sucked today... cant blame the Defense for this one... They played fairly well.... Hurry up offense we score.... but its takes us 3 quarters to get into it !!!! I don't understand...

Our defense gave up over 400 yards, 6.5 yards per play, didn't force a turnover, didn't record a sack, gave Ryan all day in the pocket.

That's horrible.

We have one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL. Not just 1 game, or 2, but for nearly every game this year.

Last I checked our defense was on pace for the worst 3rd down conversion rate in over a decade.

Rell&Gold 12-21-2014 07:58 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
The defense played well? Not the saints D who gave up over 400 yards of offense 4 plays over 20+ yards 2 30+ plays & 2 plays 15+ No Sacks No Int's No FF & not to mention the Loss for the cherry on top but besides that they played well

Rell&Gold 12-21-2014 08:02 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 633248)
we got swept by our longest rival in the division what more need to said.

the saints need to be reminded dayle the shame they have brought to the city every day till they beat the falcons in 2015.

any one know a build board business with signs to rent by the saints facility?

Swept By The Falcons!
Can't get any lower than that.

in big bold letters

That's the Killer that we got swept by the Falcons and they are LOVING it,

The Dude 12-21-2014 08:03 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Why relax? The whole point of football is to put a good team on the field that will contend for the super bowl. That didn't happen. The entertainment part of the game is getting excited when they are doing well and irked when they don't. If we as fans didn't get worked up then that would mean we are casual fans who don't really care for the actual game. Casual fans don't join Internet message boards. It's part of the experience to get worked up. In fact every post from here till regular season next year will be anticipation and part of the excitement. Now we have the draft to look forward too and a lot of changes to have fun arguing the right and wrong of.


It was a ****ty year. They put a poor product on the field and the fans deserve more than that. I have a feeling it's going to be an exciting offseason. We better bring it too because the Falcons are an offensive lineman and a couple defensive players away from being a VERY VERY dangerous team. I would be excited if I were a Falcons fan. Oh yea they need a coach too.

Rell&Gold 12-21-2014 08:05 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633247)
Our offense needs a little help, our defense needs a lot of help

Point blank. Simple as pie

saintsfan1976 12-21-2014 08:09 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Today was the clowns super bowl. They've achieved what's taken them nearly a decade to do. I'm not phased. They're not going anywhere.

What will bother me is if ,Sean Payton doesn't make changes soon.

dam1953 12-21-2014 08:20 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
This game was symptomatic of most of the other losses. The Saints are short on talent in a number of critical positions and appeared devoid of heart and desire in others, including the coaching staff.

I'm not sure what happened to the Saint's during those last five home games but it really makes one wonder what is going on with the team.

saintsfan1976 12-21-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Defense played pretty well today. Held Atllanta while the Offense did zero through 3qtrs.

Can't expect a bad D to do more

Beastmode 12-21-2014 08:36 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
I wanted to win today but the truth is we deserved to be put to pasture. We need a DC with passion. That's the first order of business. 2nd, cut the fat and build a real OL. I don't care who needs to be cut or traded but we have to have that side stout while we still have Brees.

K Major 12-21-2014 08:48 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 633269)
We need a DC with passion. That's the first order of business.

I'll settle for players with passion. I saw very little this entire season.

papz 12-21-2014 08:58 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 633169)
I understand the disappointment and heartache but my god stop the childish whining already. Did you really think that we were going to be a contender in the playoffs from the first month of the season you should have known that this year was going to be bad so this shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. This has been coming for a while now there has been no real changes to the play book they are predictable plain and simple. The offense has been the Drew and Jimmy show way to much the last few years. Sean and staff have to get back to spreading the ball around to differnt guys. We need a big tall wr while I like cooks we could have used a big tall wr more. Look at our wideouts after Colston they are pretty much all small guys size wise On the defensive side of the ball they really haven't adressed the awful linebacker and cornerback position yes added to the safety position but the weakest link is at corner and linebacker on defense has been for years. Last years defense was a fluke that set the team back that came back to haunt them this year

It was a back breaking loss that ended our season. It fresh and people are going to want to vent. If it were a few weeks past and people are still crying and haven't moved on... I mean, I'd get it then. Telling everyone to suck it up and move on right away is easier said than done. If someone came to me and kicked my dog, it's going to resonate for a while before I got over it.

spkb25 12-21-2014 09:00 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 633175)
Not being able to stop the local high school team is the #1 problem.

The o line is a problem yes but not the biggest

The OLINE is a HUGE ****ign problem. Has been all year.

Our record is due (at least in my opinion) from us losing on both LOS all year long

spkb25 12-21-2014 09:02 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 633169)
I understand the disappointment and heartache but my god stop the childish whining already. Did you really think that we were going to be a contender in the playoffs from the first month of the season you should have known that this year was going to be bad so this shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. This has been coming for a while now there has been no real changes to the play book they are predictable plain and simple. The offense has been the Drew and Jimmy show way to much the last few years. Sean and staff have to get back to spreading the ball around to differnt guys. We need a big tall wr while I like cooks we could have used a big tall wr more. Look at our wideouts after Colston they are pretty much all small guys size wise On the defensive side of the ball they really haven't adressed the awful linebacker and cornerback position yes added to the safety position but the weakest link is at corner and linebacker on defense has been for years. Last years defense was a fluke that set the team back that came back to haunt them this year

This is just an observation. Your sentences are the longest sentences without any punctuation that I have seen in a good minute.

Jankman8 12-22-2014 04:27 AM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
The game yesterday, the rungame was non existant -why?
Because it is super predictable and you know what`s coming every single snap.

The passing game was non existant - why?
Because the plays take way to long to, the oline especially the interior is rubbish.

Special teams are horrible -why?
Because Graham is just horrible, we need a young kicker like a Blair Walsh or someone like him that can at least TRY a 50 yard Fieldgoal.. in the freakin Dome. This is just bad and has been like that for years.

So what to change:

Offense: first trade or cut any player that doesnīt have a lot of dead money involved. Rebuild the oline with Lelito and Armstead being the main pieces. Get some nasty players with attitude - but with that I donīt mean dumb players that get penalties. If the O-line creates wholes for the running game then the Passing game will follow. Change the scheme to Zoneblocking scheme maybe? Defenses just keep swarming whenever we call a runplay and when Thomas is in on a running down they know that 70% of the time a screen is coming.. Quick slants, WR screens just mix things up.

Defense: Try SJB in the last game, see what he can do. Sign veterans with leadership skills - in my opinion it was a horrible move to cut Champ Bailey. Should have kept him for leadership reasons. Donīt resign Cam Jordan, what has he done this season? The contract for Galette has been bad enough. Hicks has some talent, but we need players that perform and not just hand money out. The passrush was horrible, and was horrible last year as well from the start of the second half. Defensive numbers were inflated by some early games like the Bills game.

Special teams: get a kicker with a big leg so that we can at least try FG in the 50-60 yd range. restructure the morstead contract.

This team has too much talent to just completely overhaul, but some pieces are so dysfunctional - the oline and dline - that nobody should be safe.

I just hope we simply draft a player like Kuechly, Bowman, Watt.. a guy that`s just all business, no social media drama, want`s to get better and tells other players that are not performing to simply STFU.

Canīt wait for the Offseason and next year. This has been a season with so many up and downs.. Me heading to the Dome from Austria, after the team just won games against the Packers and Panthers fully expecting them to win against the 49ers and Bengals only to see a major beatdown. Then a win against the Steelers only to loose again at home.

Next year can only be better

Audiotom 12-22-2014 04:42 AM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
other than the fact we didn't play the Bills (padded stats)
you nailed it Jankman

lee909 12-22-2014 04:49 AM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
I hoping we move down in the draft to secure a extra pick. With a probable top 10 pick even moving down to the mid teens should get at least a additional 2nd. Im hoping to see one of McKinney, Perryman or Kendricks in the second

Jankman8 12-22-2014 05:48 AM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
We probably move up to get Amari Cooper :)

lee909 12-22-2014 06:14 AM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Could also trade our third to move back up for Gurley while we are at it

Jankman8 12-22-2014 06:45 AM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Sounds like a move, haha!

vpheughan 12-22-2014 12:23 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Relax? Why? I thought the team did their impression of R E L A X all year!

hagan714 12-22-2014 12:38 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
I am relaxed.
i have been all year.
i have been through worse.
but in no way is my disappointment going away.
burn this year into your memories and do not forget it
as a tax payer that picks up the bill for this game i demand more

Mardigras9 12-22-2014 01:02 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633247)
Our offense needs a little help, our defense needs a lot of help

That about sums it up.

ikecomp 12-22-2014 01:36 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
I braced for this about 8 games into the season. You could see the weaknesses and issues on this team. If Payton can change the few things below we can get back on track

-The interior offensive line needs a massive overhaul
-Graham needs to toughen up. The guy plays like a drunk scared kitten out there sometimes
-The linebacking core needs some major speed added.
-More hustle and toughness on offense. Far too often do I see guys drop balls and go in the tank or give up on routes to early

Mardigras9 12-22-2014 01:40 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
I actually find it much more relaxing now that we are officially eliminated. The inability of any team in this division to take a lead just prolonged the misery for way longer than we should have had to endure it.

AllSaints 12-23-2014 05:55 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633251)
Our defense gave up over 400 yards, 6.5 yards per play, didn't force a turnover, didn't record a sack, gave Ryan all day in the pocket.

That's horrible.

We have one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL. Not just 1 game, or 2, but for nearly every game this year.

Last I checked our defense was on pace for the worst 3rd down conversion rate in over a decade.

yeah its defense fault we had 7 points till the 4th.... please.... Yes I understand the Defense is terrible... and how bout that saints Offensive line against the worst Defensive line... ? I don't understand your love for this sucky offense it sucksssssss just like the defenseeeee ! our team suckssss...

Danno 12-23-2014 05:59 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 633802)
yeah its defense fault we had 7 points till the 4th.... please.... Yes I understand the Defense is terrible... and how bout that saints Offensive line against the worst Defensive line... ? I don't understand your love for this sucky offense it sucksssssss just like the defenseeeee ! our team suckssss...


Uhhh, yeah, OK, whatever.:rolleyes:

I said the defense was horrible, so did you after saying the defense played well.

Make up your mind. Did they play well or are they horrible?

I never expressed "love" for this offense. Please show me that one.

AllSaints 12-23-2014 06:06 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633805)
Uhhh, yeah, OK, whatever.:rolleyes:

exactly

captainshawn 12-23-2014 07:39 PM

Re: Everyone needs to take a breath and relax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 633238)
The worst defense in the NFL harassed Drew Brees all day. The O line is a MAJOR problem.

If Drew had the time in the pocket that Ryan had he would destroy any defense in the league. OL has got to change except for Armstead.


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